Elk Master Tips

Chris said:
I've long been under the impression that the biggest benefit from using layered tips is that they are far more consistent, tip to tip, than traditional tips. I've heard that some traditional tips come in multipack boxes in which only 10-20% are of sufficient quality for good players, the rest being suitable only for house cues and bangers. (I cannot confirm what I've heard is true, so feel free to enlighten me.)

When traditional tips are compressed and/or "doctored" (e.g., milk duds), how is the consistency from one tip to the next?
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If you have a reliable process, consistency isn't an issue.
Questionables don't see daylight. Simple as that.
 
Tennesseejoe said:
Many years ago Elk Master, Le Pro, and Champion tips
were the favorite for pool players. Do any/many players use original
Elk Masters now? Elk Masters compressed?
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Earl and Efren used Elk Master tips for years. Maybe still do. Mosconi used Champion tips, which aren't available as they used to be. All three of those guys were great in my opinion.
 
I tried them without modification on my CF viking. They where a pain to install cause you got zero working time with the CA glue for some reason. Extremely soft so constant shaping was required with resulted in lower life. Being around $1 each can't get much cheaper.
 
lots of shaping is indeed no fun, you have to find the right combo you can live with.
 
Mensabum said:
Bou

Boy, you play a boring game dude. Sorry. Blech.😉😂

Good advice of course, as usual.
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yea i only gamble, and do play a boring game to watch me. but am very entertaining while i play, and i get to buy expensive toys and houses. so it must not be too bad of a way to go.

centerline of cue ball you don't ever miscue, or get too far out of line. and control your position with speed rather than spin.

still some shots need spin, but rarely more than one tip.

its more fun to drive a corvette but a toyota gets you there more reliably.
 
maha said:
yea i only gamble, and do play a boring game to watch me. but am very entertaining while i play, and i get to buy expensive toys and houses. so it must not be too bad of a way to go.

centerline of cue ball you don't ever miscue, or get too far out of line. and control your position with speed rather than spin.

still some shots need spin, but rarely more than one tip.

its more fun to drive a corvette but a toyota gets you there more reliably.
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Have to agree if you can get where you need to be on angle and speed center ball or half tip above, that's really all you need. Esp. on barboxes.
 
Mensabum said:
Have to agree if you can get where you need to be on angle and speed center ball or half tip above, that's really all you need. Esp. on barboxes.
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At my peak I only needed over half a tip of sidespin once or twice a session. Rare, but I have played four to six hours without ever using more than half a tip of side.

As you say, speed and angles. Once it starts working you get shape for the next shot so speed and angle works again. I have heard a handful of people say they wasted a lot of time learning to manage sidespin. That is a bit of an exaggeration but speed and angle is a much more consistent method. Nice when I am playing a lot and can't remember the last time I miscued!

Most people would be well served to spend 20-30 minutes on speed control at the beginning of a session. Speed control is the weakest portion of my game and I think that is true of most people.

It was funny, I thought I was playing shape. Then I caught a young Willie Mosconi on TV. Might have even been an unusually good day for him. He made the cue ball do everything but sit up and beg! I started revising my game that evening.

It was twenty years more or less before I saw somebody that made me have to rethink what was possible on a pool table again. A funny little Filippino guy. I didn't have it in me to rebuild my game from scratch again. My game was a pale shadow of Willie's but similar in style. The much more extroverted style of Efren didn't suit me.

Hu
 
also called marketing by some.

and instead of self improvement, many look for the next or new miracle gizmo to do the trick for them.
 
I liked elkmaster for the longest time. They were the softest tip to my knowledge. I tried a lot of other tips, but once I tried the Zan, I haven't gone back. Less maintenance and same feel as the Elkmaster, but even a little better. I still have a box of Elkmasters.
 
let see maybe the two best players ever or at least close to it in anyone's book. use elk masters tips.

and all the newbies and gizmo fanatics keep harping on layered tips, or even that the tip is so important to your shot making.

the tip is really only important to how much time you spend on it.

do you really think they need a different tip, shaft, or chalk to play better. or you?
 
maha said:
let see maybe the two best players ever or at least close to it in anyone's book. use elk masters tips.

and all the newbies and gizmo fanatics keep harping on layered tips, or even that the tip is so important to your shot making.

the tip is really only important to how much time you spend on it.

do you really think they need a different tip, shaft, or chalk to play better. or you?
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You can ask the pros why they are using a different cue rather than using a standard house cue. If not, ask Earl about his numerous contraptions throughout the years.
 
yes thats the point, even some top pros think they can change things by doing something different or with other equipment. when its really just them that needs to get their shit together.
 
batmmann5 said:
I liked elkmaster for the longest time. They were the softest tip to my knowledge. I tried a lot of other tips, but once I tried the Zan, I haven't gone back. Less maintenance and same feel as the Elkmaster, but even a little better. I still have a box of Elkmasters.
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Pm me please!!
 
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