Enco lathe wireing help

zx24

zx24

Cue Maker Apprentice
Silver Member
I purchased an enco Model #510-2585 13x40 lathe and am having problems wireing it up 220v single phase. I have had 3 electricians
and 1 industrial equipment repairman try to wire this lathe up. The manual
is not clear on the wireing instructions. If anyone has one please help.
The industrial equipment repairman is going to call tech support at
enco today. I hope they can help.
 
zx24 said:
I purchased an enco Model #510-2585 13x40 lathe and am having problems wireing it up 220v single phase. I have had 3 electricians
and 1 industrial equipment repairman try to wire this lathe up. The manual
is not clear on the wireing instructions. If anyone has one please help.
The industrial equipment repairman is going to call tech support at
enco today. I hope they can help.
Click to expand...

What clarification are you looking for? Are you sure it's a single phase motor?
 
Call Enco, they will help you with their tech support. They helped me with my motor set up.

Rick
 
zx24 said:
Its a single phase or 3 phase motor.
Click to expand...

WHAT?????
It's either 1ph or 3ph. It can't be both.

The first thing you need to do is to look at the 'spec' tag on the motor.
It will tell you if it is 1ph or 3ph and it's corresponding voltage.
If it's a 3ph motor and you only have 1ph at your shop then you will need a phase converter, either rotary or static. Another option is a VFD, or variable frequency drive. It's my understanding that some of these will give you 3ph power from a 1ph source. Dick Neighbors likes these so they're probably worth a look. Another option would be to swap-out the 3ph motor for a comparable 1ph, though I'd recommend that you stay with the 3ph if at all possible.

Does the lathe have a magnetic starter/relay?
How many wires are in the power feed cable?
If it has 3, then the machine is set-up for 1ph. If it has 4, then the machine is set-up for 3ph. In which case, you won't be able to hook it up without buying additional equipment.

Whatever you do, DO NOT try and run a 3ph mtr. on just 1ph power without some means of generating the 3rd leg. The motor will not run and you'll burn it up in short order.
 
zx24 said:
http://www.use-enco.com/Machinery/110-1351.pdf
Here is the manual I recieved with machine.
It says its a 1 or 2 phase motor. the motor has 4 wires.
look at the diagrams. Its not clear on how to
hook it up 220 single phase.
Click to expand...
Sounds like 3 phase, and you cannot hook it up to household 220 directly. Simply get a vfd from driveswarehouse.com for the hp rating. they are simple to use and cost around 200? it will convert your household 200 to the phase you need and you can get instant reverse and a bunch of other neat options as well. do yourself a favor and don't try and run it anymore with single phase......

As was pointed out, the easiest thing to do is look at motor.... OH, and get your money back from the electricians
 
Last edited:
DaveK said:
The manual linked contains a table with several motor options, and includes a model number for each. That it has 4 wires strongly suggests it is a 3-Phase motor. I am very suprised that a licensed and ticketed electrician would have difficulty with connecting up this lathe, unless of course zx24s facility does not have 3-Phase power.

Dave
Click to expand...

3 electricians and......anyway. Hope you didn't pay them. No electrician I know of would spend more than five mins on this. It is pretty easy to determine the motor specs simply by looking at the plate. If the plate is worn off or hopelessly painted over and the "electrician" can't figure it out, then he probably shouldn't be an electrician.

The single phase to 3 phase "issue" is no longer really an issue with smaller motors. The VFD's are pretty reasonable and allow the benefits of 3 phase power. Once the HP goes up though, so does the price. I just looked at one for ten hp and it was 1000.00
 
I just went to the Enco website. The specs on the lathe you have are 110 or 220 volts single phase. The motors come prewired for 220 volts. I have the Baldor motor on mine. The wire marked PE is connected to ground. The other 2 wires are wired to 220 volts. I only had 3 wires on mine but the manual says for 220 volts single phase the Z2 wire is not used. Call 800-8733626 for tech support. PM me if you need helpful hints about Enco lathes.
BT
 
bubbaandthem said:
I just went to the Enco website. The specs on the lathe you have are 110 or 220 volts single phase. The motors come prewired for 220 volts. I have the Baldor motor on mine. The wire marked PE is connected to ground. The other 2 wires are wired to 220 volts. I only had 3 wires on mine but the manual says for 220 volts single phase the Z2 wire is not used. Call 800-8733626 for tech support. PM me if you need helpful hints about Enco lathes.
BT
Click to expand...
His manual states it was available with both single and three phase. Simple thing is still to look on the motor plate.
 
Take a pic

Take a close up pic of the motor tag and post it here. It gets frustrating to ask us for help and not get enough info from you to be of help. It should be no big deal to wire that motor, Even three phase motor and contactor setups can be thought out and rewired for single phase. But, as someone pointed out already: a phase converter is a good way to go as the three phase motors give you more power for electricity used and other very cool advantages.
 
OK the wiring instruction only give you single phase and either 110 or 220 installation. Looks to me like in Diag 11 S and R are the hot wires on the power input and PE is your ground.
Just to CYA best to call enco and make sure.

John
 
If it were me yes, I learned long ago that I was not to be an electrician.
Plus I heard way too many horror stories from friends who were. I had no idea that touching a wrong wire could blow you 30 feet off the top of a ladder.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
If it were me yes, I learned long ago that I was not to be an electrician.
Plus I heard way too many horror stories from friends who were. I had no idea that touching a wrong wire could blow you 30 feet off the top of a ladder.
Click to expand...
I'm not an electrician, but I can figure it out. I only got myself once when I trenched and ran the sub out to my garage. BTW, don't try and dig a trench without a machine.....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top