End of the US Open?

JPB2

Well-known member
It's tournaments with golf. Top 5 finishers get a pga card. Top 40 get some type of status on the Korn Ferry tour.

Each year the top 25 on the korn Ferry tour get PGA cards. Those that don't make enough money to stay on the pga tour go back to korn ferry or q school.

I read a book on q school, it sounds pretty tough.
They have been changing the process recently- making it a bit more like it used to be. In any event, the PGA tour has categories of status/priority. A couple of basic ones are players in the top 125 from the year before or winners of events in the prior 2 seasons. There are others. Several others. Some don’t have a very high priority. Think of it like an airline. There is a flight every week with a given number of seats- generally more than 125. Guys from q-school/ Korn Ferry are maybe in slots 126-175 or something. In a popular tournament before daylight saving time their status won’t get them in. Like flying standby. The players with higher status get seats if they want them. Like your first class passengers with priority boarding etc…. In weeks where many players with good status choose not to play, players with very little priority might get in. Like a guy in his ‘40’s who won twice in his career and the last win was 15 years ago. Not many rookies get to set their schedule as they like and some might not get as many starts as they need. Anyway, if pool has a major tournament every week with 128 spots such a priority system would make sense. Pool isn’t there yet.
 

The_JV

'AZB_Combat Certified'
If they don't want to fork out the money and time to travel, don't play in the qualifier.
If this logic worked, then there'd be no need for a wait list either.

Last year the entry was I think 700usd. If a top local shortstop wins a qualifier and lets assume the entry won't be $700, then I think the odds of them flipping their spot to make a handful of cash pretty good.
 

The_JV

'AZB_Combat Certified'
if any tournament fills up too fast it solely means the entry fee is way too small.
No, it means the people paying quickly don't fear the possibility of them not being able to sell the spot to someone else.
 

HelpMeScrubs0013

Active member
Terrible take! You want to watch scrubs play instead of the elite because they can pay their way? Matchroom is making a sport out of pool and you are knocking them for it. You don’t see amateurs on the golf tour or any other professional tour without qualifying do you?
It's all about the money....
 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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If they don't want to fork out the money and time to travel, don't play in the qualifier.

Fans of sports teams travel all the time to see their teams. If someone really says they love pool, they will travel to an event that is close to them to watch. I have always said, if pool fans treat pool like they do football or other sports, pool would have more money in it then it currently does. You don't need to have a huge packed arena. Have a number of people in the arena that looks good on camera and focus on the streaming aspect. That is where the money is.

Just curious: how many pool events a year do you travel to just to spectate?

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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Terrible take! You want to watch scrubs play instead of the elite because they can pay their way? Matchroom is making a sport out of pool and you are knocking them for it. You don’t see amateurs on the golf tour or any other professional tour without qualifying do you?

Pool is not golf and never will be.

Not pro tennis or any pro team sport either.

Think bowling.

Lou Figueroa
on a good day
 

justadub

Rattling corners nightly
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If this logic worked, then there'd be no need for a wait list either.

Last year the entry was I think 700usd. If a top local shortstop wins a qualifier and lets assume the entry won't be $700, then I think the odds of them flipping their spot to make a handful of cash pretty good.
I cannot imagine Matchroom allowing someone to sell their spot, if they go thru the bother and process of doing formal qualifiers...
 

The_JV

'AZB_Combat Certified'
I cannot imagine Matchroom allowing someone to sell their spot, if they go thru the bother and process of doing formal qualifiers...
I can't either, but then MR would have to manage all aspects of all qualifiers to ensure the next finisher in whatever qualifier has first dibs. I'm guessing slots will be granted to whatever "qualifying event" and they'll leave it to that organizer to deal with who's awarded the slot in the main draw

In the old system, a spot was paid for and anyone could show up and play in that spot.
 

Tadaimarlon

Well-known member
For me, it's ok if there's somewhere near me to play this qualification. It has always been my dream to play in the US Open but I never had the money to do it, it is quite expensive to fly from Spain to the US and pay for the hotel etc. Now that I live in Japan I would have the money, but if I have to fly 6h+ to Thailand for a qualifier (as is the case with the UK Open), I will pass on it.

I also play quite sporty, with proper preparation I would probably have the chance to beat some people. One of my pool friends from Spain even won against Anton Raga last year, I could imagine with a bit of luck maybe beating someone too, that would be a nice memory.
 

9BallKY

AzB Silver Member
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Let’s say it’s $60 to enter a qualifier. Say there is 64 players = roughly $3800. Say $1500-$2000 for first place.

Let say the winner just takes the money they made and go home.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
they can freeze up the money and send it in.
or let him keep it whats the difference. and you can have many qualifiers that way
 

nicksaint26

AzB Silver Member
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Pool is not golf and never will be.

Not pro tennis or any pro team sport either.

Think bowling.

Lou Figueroa
on a good day

You are just another old timer stuck in the past. Times are changing for pool thanks to Matchroom. I’m thinking more like darts than bowling which ain’t a bad living at all.
 

Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
Silver Member
Good for you but does it do the game/event any good? IMO it lessens the event by having hacks in the field. That's why the USOpen golf requires qualifiers to be 2handicap or better golfers. I have no problem with weekend warriors in the field if they got there on merit not just 'cause they could pay the entry fee.
Yep, a minimum Fargo#.
 

The_JV

'AZB_Combat Certified'
they can freeze up the money and send it in.
or let him keep it whats the difference. and you can have many qualifiers that way
Best plan... however unless things have changed, the entry was/is 700usd. Assuming 10 qualifier tourneys then you'd be taking +12 from each event.

Making those assumptions. A 64 players field would require a minimum of a $130 entry fee.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
i dont know how they would structure it but 100 bucks or some more isnt much nowadays for a qualifying entry.

without high entry fees you can not get the prize fund high enough to pay enough places to entice weaker players to attend so they can dream of getting in the money.

local tournaments okay but when you have travel expenses and such the prizes have to match the costs.
 

The_JV

'AZB_Combat Certified'
i dont know how they would structure it but 100 bucks or some more isnt much nowadays for a qualifying entry.
No not at all. The trick is to not give players an option to cash. So they know if they play, the only option is a "qualifier spot" and if they don't take it then it goes to the next player without compensation to them.

That's the trick, and I'm not sure MR would want the drama of managing it.
 
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