English using the pivot point

Pidge

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I've recently started using a new butt and for some reason (new butt has a different balance point?) my normal way of compencating for squirt doesn't work. I'd usually just get down without thinking about aim and shoot the shot with approximately 70% success on long 7 1/2ft shots.

So I started aiming the shots centre ball and pivoting to strike the CB with the desired English. So far my percentage has risen to like 90%!

If someone could fully explain this technique to me, the do's and dont's etc I'd really appreciate it.

Also it seems to be compensating not only for squirt but also spin induced throw too. Am I just getting lucky or is this method designed to compendate for both?

Cheers.
 
I'm not sure, but it sounds like you're simply using back hand english. What was your normal way of compensation? I don't understand why a new balance point of the butt would be any different. It may be due to the consrtuction. Is it a spliced or solid butt & what was your old one?

RJ
 
I never heard that the butt would affect squirt. You might try to move your bridge forward or backward behind the CB ...than your normal bridge location.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Its a spliced butt and the old one was solid.

My old way of compendating was just to get down and shoot, didn't put any thought into it I was just used to the amount of deflection or squirt my cue produced.

I'm in no way complaining I'm making far more balls this way!

Cheers
 
English Using Pivot Point

I've recently started using a new butt and for some reason (new butt has a different balance point?) my normal way of compencating for squirt doesn't work. I'd usually just get down without thinking about aim and shoot the shot with approximately 70% success on long 7 1/2ft shots.

So I started aiming the shots centre ball and pivoting to strike the CB with the desired English. So far my percentage has risen to like 90%!

If someone could fully explain this technique to me, the do's and dont's etc I'd really appreciate it.

Also it seems to be compensating not only for squirt but also spin induced throw too. Am I just getting lucky or is this method designed to compendate for both?

Cheers.

Pidge,
Every change in a cue is going to have some effect so it doesnt surprise me that you changing a butt has either stiffened or make your cue more pliable. I used to play with a soft instead of hard shaft and once I had some shafts made well everything changed.

The fact that this has affected your normal arch should be no real surprise either but in all actuality its not so complicated either...the first cue being the basis, the one after it is now different so its either more or less deflection.

I have a friend I play that used to amaze me he could pick up a cue hit 2 to 3 shots and say ok its deflecting like that and then play like a champ with about any cue he was playing with.

I recently bought a Predator Sneaky from a guy selling his equipment and it started spoiling me right off but I liked the other cue and it wasnt too bad on the deflection so I put the Sneaky Pete up. I see now why people like the new generation of special shafts.....less is better with deflection....but you do give up a few small things when you go to them but its argueable that you cant get used to that as well and be a overall better player.

So I guess it just comes down to what you like........then you deal with it....

For me I want to be able to tell where to hit em with Center Ball if I can see that then Im on my way to solving the way the cue archs the ball. Its either more or less than the one Im used to playing with but interesting you mention this....I know depending on Diamond distance from the object ball shot how to allow for my playing cue......if you know the center ball spot then measure from 1 diamond, 2 diamond, 3 diamond and finally 4 diamonds from the shot and shoot them until they go you will find out with that cue....everything is either more or less..... the farther away the more absurd the allowance...for my cue....1 diamond is equal to 1/2 in, 2 diamonds...3/4 to 1in, 3 diamonds 1in to 1/4 and 4 diamonds 11/2 to 1 3/4 if not more depending on English and stroke pressure used. So for me everything else is either more or less now because I know the cue I play with.

First I find my center ball spot looking over the cue ball then I pivot those different distances from the edge of the center ball spot and yeah...Ive got a pretty high percentage of success.

Whether you pivot or bark at the moon you still have to allow some distance from the center ball contact point on the object ball somehow......if you start measuring it thinking about how far in diamonds you are from the shot...youre onto something good and everything between the diamond distances now is either more or less.... How do I know how far I am from the object ball. I use my cue shaft its 2 diamonds up the shaft to the line where the chalk doesnt stain, its 4 diamonds in the last part of the wrap.....you can put the tip on the cloth and look at it and tell. If you know youre going to juice it up good it only takes a split second to do this....

336Robin :thumbup:
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... I started aiming the shots centre ball and pivoting to strike the CB with the desired English. So far my percentage has risen to like 90%!

If someone could fully explain this technique to me, the do's and dont's etc I'd really appreciate it.

Also it seems to be compensating not only for squirt but also spin induced throw too. Am I just getting lucky or is this method designed to compendate for both?
You are using what is called back-hand English (BHE). It is described completely and demonstrated here:

BHE can be used to compensate for squirt; although, swerve and throw are also important factors with many types of shots. Front-hand English (FHE) is more appropriate for longer, slower shots. For more info on how to adjust aim for all English effects for all types of shots, see:

Good luck,
Dave
 
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