erase the effect of deflection.

[Jimbojim]

I just came back from my pool lesson and I learned something that is gonna change my game forever.

He said "Ok Remy, listen to this, I don't believe in deflection. I never compensate for deflection. All I compensate for is the 'throw' effect which varies with the amount of spin on the QBall. I stroke in a way that deflection will never happen"

He started to explain me that all the QBall weight is right in the center of the sphere but its so sensible that the slighest hit on the side will make it curve (we all knew that) so he said 'in order to remove that effect, play really high on the cueball or really low(without trying to backspin) and you'll never have to compensate your aim for that...only for throw"

I didn't believe him so he asked me to play several long distance shots that required A LOT of spin to get position for the next ball and surprisingly, all I had to do was to throw the ball in with extreme top or bottom(obviously you adjust for the position that needs to be achieved...but you NEVER hit on the horizontal axis). I succeeded with 10/10!!!

I stood up and said 'Wow this game is a lot easier now!' and I bursted out laughing for how cool it was

 

[Neil]

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[8pack]

I just came back from my pool lesson and I learned something that is gonna change my game forever.

He said "Ok Remy, listen to this, I don't believe in deflection. I never compensate for deflection. All I compensate for is the 'throw' effect which varies with the amount of spin on the QBall. I stroke in a way that deflection will never happen"

He started to explain me that all the QBall weight is right in the center of the sphere but its so sensible that the slighest hit on the side will make it curve (we all knew that) so he said 'in order to remove that effect, play really high on the cueball or really low(without trying to backspin) and you'll never have to compensate your aim for that...only for throw"

I didn't believe him so he asked me to play several long distance shots that required A LOT of spin to get position for the next ball and surprisingly, all I had to do was to throw the ball in with extreme top or bottom(obviously you adjust for the position that needs to be achieved...but you NEVER hit on the horizontal axis). I succeeded with 10/10!!!

I stood up and said 'Wow this game is a lot easier now!' and I bursted out laughing for how cool it was

If the cueball where a clock where are you hitting for low right and high right?

 

[Jimbojim]

If the cueball where a clock where are you hitting for low right and high right?

high right 1:30

low right 4:30

 

[dr_dave]

With English comes is squirt (CB deflection), swerve (CB curve), and throw (OB deflection). The combined effect of squirt and swerve is sometimes called "deflection" or "net deflection" or "effective deflection" or "squerve." For a given shot distance and desired amount of English, there are always various combinations of speeds and cue elevations that will result in no squerve (i.e., the squirt and swerve will cancel). However, the exact speed and elevation needed for each shot can be difficult to judge and will vary with conditions. I think it is easier to keep the cue as level as possible and just learn to adjust for squirt and swerve. For a lot more info (with lots of articles and videos), see:

http://billiards.colostate.edu/threads/squirt.html​

Regards,
Dave

I just came back from my pool lesson and I learned something that is gonna change my game forever.

He said "Ok Remy, listen to this, I don't believe in deflection. I never compensate for deflection. All I compensate for is the 'throw' effect which varies with the amount of spin on the QBall. I stroke in a way that deflection will never happen"

He started to explain me that all the QBall weight is right in the center of the sphere but its so sensible that the slighest hit on the side will make it curve (we all knew that) so he said 'in order to remove that effect, play really high on the cueball or really low(without trying to backspin) and you'll never have to compensate your aim for that...only for throw"

I didn't believe him so he asked me to play several long distance shots that required A LOT of spin to get position for the next ball and surprisingly, all I had to do was to throw the ball in with extreme top or bottom(obviously you adjust for the position that needs to be achieved...but you NEVER hit on the horizontal axis). I succeeded with 10/10!!!

I stood up and said 'Wow this game is a lot easier now!' and I bursted out laughing for how cool it was

 

[Jason Robichaud]

That is a great way to play and normal for anyone coming from snooker. pool is a different beast and if you are having trouble with left and right spins, you better learn. It will be way easier to judge what will happens with the CB after contact (where it will hit rails and how far it will travel). The biggest problem people have using spin is using too much or hitting it wrong. Like posted above and what I posted a few months ago... start off middle ball, move hand to left/right (level cue), then drop front hand about half to full tip and lift back hand a little. The left/right will push the CB off line and having the butt lifted will pull the CB back on line. You can even try aiming dead middle CB and when you stroke move your back hand to hit left/right on CB. This is hard to judge the amount of spin, but allows for a straighter CB path. Anyways, tons of things to try. A missed pot or blown shape will get you the same results in the end.

 

[Jimbojim]

That is a great way to play and normal for anyone coming from snooker. pool is a different beast and if you are having trouble with left and right spins, you better learn. It will be way easier to judge what will happens with the CB after contact (where it will hit rails and how far it will travel). The biggest problem people have using spin is using too much or hitting it wrong. Like posted above and what I posted a few months ago... start off middle ball, move hand to left/right (level cue), then drop front hand about half to full tip and lift back hand a little. The left/right will push the CB off line and having the butt lifted will pull the CB back on line. You can even try aiming dead middle CB and when you stroke move your back hand to hit left/right on CB. This is hard to judge the amount of spin, but allows for a straighter CB path. Anyways, tons of things to try. A missed pot or blown shape will get you the same results in the end.

It was a different feeling to realize that I didn't have to compensate for deflection anymore but only for throw because I have been using side spin the very first day I started to play pool to learn (3 1/2 years go)
and they all told me " your cue ball is gonna deflect, think about it when you aim"

I'll reach AA soon