You hit it on the head what the market is willing to bear? Look at the list of azers that paid 625 plus125 three months ago (thread 12squared) some of the biggest buyers and sellers on az paid to much!! So get your facts straight MR BEAN COUNTER>1pRoscoe said:
Ernie Martinez raffle
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superfish said:
I would ask you the same type of question that I asked Pii in his aborted raffle thread, "Why is that extra $.67 so important to you?" I also find it interesting that you are still trying to get 20% more in this proposed raffle than what you were trying to sell it for and no one was interested.
thank you pii for putting some of the numbers together to try and show that this is a fairly rational price for a cue. However, one thing that bothers me is that he has not been able to sell this or his other EM cue for 675 shipped. Maybe it hasn't been posted long enough, but i would assume that is the market speaking as to what a proper price would be. Now if he was willing to accept 675 delivered previously ( actually he just bumped it again yesterday ), then why would he offer it over here for 840? I'm not real up to date on prices for his cues, but one thing i see a lot is when someone can't sell a cue for x price, they bring it over to the raffle section and try to raffle it for x + $300 or whatever.
I appreciate your feedback, My thought's are ques are not selling like they once did we all know the bottom line is the economy is not great? I have had numerous pm's from azers that want the cue and just don't have the money, It is no secret what I paid for the cue with a second shaft I am simply thinking of an avenue to allow people who would like the cue but can't afford it a $20 chance to own it I am not looking to make profit or earn margin as it has been said I am looking to sell a few cues to have one made, I am losing (from what Im paid) money at 675 delivered ($75 plus paypal plus shipping) and I am not crying to anyone but if I am going through all the work of a raffle I should not have to lose money I am giving every possible raffle entrant an opportunity to just pay the 675.00 and there are no issues and they cant say I am making money. I do get your point and no disrespect I think your opinions are valid, i hope you can see my side somewhat?mtdsports said:
Thanks and have a great day
i can see your point. i have not run a raffle i'm sure there is some headache involved. maybe it would be a good idea to just run straight raffles. say a $6, $11, $22, & $52 for $200, $400, $800, & $2k respectively. I would volunteer to run a few, as maybe there are a few posters on az that would as well. I'm not perfectly clear on the numbers, but whatever works out so that winner just gets the cash and can buy whatever he/she wants. Just ask that winner post some pics of what they got with it. This would also hopefully stop the nitpicking of every raffle post and keep cues at what their current market value is. Just my 2 cents though.
1pRoscoe said:
Maybe you should have hooked up with me Roscoe...before you put that Dennis Swift case up for raffle...(can't beat em, join em) I would have told you to double your price per spot...oh, but let's see...maybe you're independently wealthy and you don't need the money...just trying to prove a point right?
Why do you appreciate the feedback of sycophants yet disdain mine and Roscoe's? We have been the most straightforward with you, but because we disagree with you, you and Pii automatically turn to name calling and dismissive comments. I would think that you are smart enough to realize that there is no rule that dictates that a seller is guaranteed to make money, or at least break even. We are not talking about one of EM's older models known for their craftsmanship and playability, but a cue that is priced on that anticipated or hoped for similarity to be repeated. That has yet to be proven. It may be wise to come to the realization that you overpaid for this cue, and if you wish to realize some return of your investment, drop the asking price. Or put it away and try later. Either way, there is no need to be pissed off about comments you solicited.
Once again I am not looking to argue!! Stay tuned I am going to offer my Hercek and also a Skip Weston up for raffle $3 and $2 a spot respectively 42 spots using Powerball Would that get the approval of the of the raffle police?? I know you will now take all 42 on both with no complains correct?
superfish said:
I would be greatly surprised if mtdsports didn't know the definition of "sycophant." I believe your sarcasm detector is broken. As to your latest attempt to show your class, you would be fortunate to be so half-witted. A dictionary is a tool to be used. Only a fool would not use the proper tools if/when necessary, which I don't find to be the case in conversing in this thread.
my .02
I emailed ernie a couple of months ago and he emailed me back and told me for a merry widow cue with one shaft $625. extra shaft $125. Add a case in there I don't know . paypal fees I don't know. Heres the kicker . I don't give a flying @#$ !!!! Some people on here act like 20 bucks will buy you a trip to the moon. I seen somebody on tv pay 500 bucks for a hamburger. Now I'm not going to that restaurant but I'm not outside with a picket sign saying your to high either! How's that for market value? Who gives a care?It's like this if you want in the raffle fine . If you don't fine. Either way the rest of couldn't give a flying flippen fat babies fart what you think. And to put this forth if you do have a raffle ,the ones bickering would probably be the ones that hold it up for an extra three days by not answering their pm's and not sending in payment. Hope nobody gets offended by anything I just said but if you do go hang yourself!
I emailed ernie a couple of months ago and he emailed me back and told me for a merry widow cue with one shaft $625. extra shaft $125. Add a case in there I don't know . paypal fees I don't know. Heres the kicker . I don't give a flying @#$ !!!! Some people on here act like 20 bucks will buy you a trip to the moon. I seen somebody on tv pay 500 bucks for a hamburger. Now I'm not going to that restaurant but I'm not outside with a picket sign saying your to high either! How's that for market value? Who gives a care?It's like this if you want in the raffle fine . If you don't fine. Either way the rest of couldn't give a flying flippen fat babies fart what you think. And to put this forth if you do have a raffle ,the ones bickering would probably be the ones that hold it up for an extra three days by not answering their pm's and not sending in payment. Hope nobody gets offended by anything I just said but if you do go hang yourself!
AlexB said:
Do you have a problem with the final number not being a nice round number, or the raffle spot cost? If he made the spot $18, the 42 spot raffle would end up at 756, at which point you would complain about the $6. If he made it $19x 42 you would complain it doesn't work out to 800 even. Making it 40 spots at $20 per spot would work out for you unless 41 or 42 were drawn.
Wow, such hatred and negativity fills your post..... and there is no similarity to your comparison below.... I've attached a few other posts from this thread and highlighted the main points for your review. I trust this will save you the aggrevation of having to hunt for that needle in the haystack...
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