Even if you don't use, lets know your opinion & Why

[asbani]

Sorry if this post has been made before, but I didn't find one. Me and some friends today has this discussion in our room. most of them plays with predator shaft 314. And they were all saying that the 314 is much better than OB-1 for some reason. but from what I read here in the forums everybody feels otherwise or loves OB-1 more at least from the posts i've seen. so here's a poll with a WHY.

For me I haven't played with both of them, but I want to give a try to either one of them in the next few days, so From this post i'll pick up which one i would buy.

Thanks.

EDIT: please don't tell us about other shafts. even if you play with different one I'm sure most of you AZers have at least tried 314 or OB-1, so stick to only these two shafts. Thanks!

 

[BVal]

Sorry if this post has been made before, but I didn't find one. Me and some friends today has this discussion in our room. most of them plays with predator shaft 314. And they were all saying that the 314 is much better than OB-1 for some reason. but from what I read here in the forums everybody feels otherwise or loves OB-1 more at least from the posts i've seen. so here's a poll with a WHY.

For me I haven't played with both of them, but I want to give a try to either one of them in the next few days, so From this post i'll pick up which one i would buy.

Thanks.

I have and use both of them. The only noticable difference is the sound that the 314-2 makes and the OB-1 doesn't. I think they are both excellent shafts. I have sniper tips on both of them and it kind of sucks because I can't figure out which one I like better. I don't have a bad thing to say about either of them. You will be happy with either one. IMO.
P.S. I did not vote because I can't vote for both.

BVal

 

[asbani]

I have and use both of them. The only noticable difference is the sound that the 314-2 makes and the OB-1 doesn't. I think they are both excellent shafts. I have sniper tips on both of them and it kind of sucks because I can't figure out which one I like better. I don't have a bad thing to say about either of them. You will be happy with either one. IMO.

BVal

thanks for the reply, when my friends said predator shaft 314 is better is because when you hit with it "The cueball doesn't throw & the shaft won't be shacking alot" <--- That what they been said. Unlike OB-1 as they said too. They say OB-1 is a shaft that shacks and plays alot after the hit. Is that true or maybe the OB-1's that are in our country are fake? I don't know

 

[BVal]

thanks for the reply, when my friends said predator shaft 314 is better is because when you hit with it "The cueball doesn't throw & the shaft won't be shacking alot" <--- That what they been said. Unlike OB-1 as they said too. They say OB-1 is a shaft that shacks and plays alot after the hit. Is that true or maybe the OB-1's that are in our country are fake? I don't know

Do you mean shake? Mine does not shake - I don't know if it shacks because I don't know what that means. Both of them hit very solid in my opinion. Neither of them shake after the hit. What do they mean by throw the cueball?

 

[PIRANHA]

Do you mean shake? Mine does not shake - I don't know if it shacks because I don't know what that means. Both of them hit very solid in my opinion. Neither of them shake after the hit. What do they mean by throw the cueball?

I use and like the L-1 Mc Dermott cored shaft.

 

[219Dave]

Are you asking about the first generation 314 or the 314-2 also? If you're asking about the latter, I play with it and like it. But I'm sort of a banger, so take my opinion for what it's worth. I do think that I can draw the cue ball better with it than with the regular shaft that came with my viking, but that could be a function of using a 12.75 shaft rather than 13 mm.

 

[shortman]

I use both and like both. I tend to use the OB-1 more simply because of customer survice. I play a lot of barbox pool and was able to get Royce to turn my down to 12.4 which really help as compared to the 12.75. Plus with an ivory joint I do not have a single complaint with the OB-1, smooth but stout.

cheers---------------BW

 

[Str8PoolPlayer]

I own several Custom Cues with "dedicated" matching Predator Shafts and like the way they play ... Haven't tried the OB-1 ...

 

[Fatboy]

neither-----i'm old school

 

[Bigtruck]

Buy American....

Sorry if this post has been made before, but I didn't find one. Me and some friends today has this discussion in our room. most of them plays with predator shaft 314. And they were all saying that the 314 is much better than OB-1 for some reason. but from what I read here in the forums everybody feels otherwise or loves OB-1 more at least from the posts i've seen. so here's a poll with a WHY.

For me I haven't played with both of them, but I want to give a try to either one of them in the next few days, so From this post i'll pick up which one i would buy.

Thanks.

EDIT: please don't tell us about other shafts. even if you play with different one I'm sure most of you AZers have at least tried 314 or OB-1, so stick to only these two shafts. Thanks!

Have not played with a 314-2, but I did order 2 Predator 314's a few years back. One of the 2 had a noticeable ping to it. I sent it back. The other, I played with for about 1.5 yrs. I now own a couple of OB-1's. I have nothing but praise. At first I thought the ferrel would be odd, but I have grown to love it, plus........made in the USA!

Ray

 

[poolpro]

I have both, I use the OB!! I just prefer the way it feels. As far as deflection, technically if you believe all the data posted around the predator Z shaft has the least.

Every cue has deflection, some more than others. There is more to consider than deflection alone. Anytime you change a cue, or even a tip, you will need to adjust a bit how you aim and stroke.

I find that the difference between where you have to aim to pocket a ball is extremely minimal between the 314-2 and OB1. I can switch back and forth and pocket balls reliably without hardly any adjustment in my aim. The difference is in the hit and overall feel that the OB1 has. I really think that the OB has all the benefits of a low deflection shaft, but still feels more like a traditional shaft. It has a foam core to dampen the vibrations of the impact and gives a nice solid feel, even though the overall hit is soft.

I do think the predators are also a very good shaft, and deliver what they promise. I don't think you would be disapointed with either, altough I definately recommend the OB1 highly.

 

[TWOFORPOOL]

I completely agree with Poolpro. I couldn't of said it better. I played 9 months with a 314-2 and changed to an OB-1 simply because it hits/feels better. I also believe its puts a little more spin on the cue ball making the OB-1 a little more efficent when compared to a 314-2.

One more thing... The OB-1 wood "clocked" ferrule is unique. As wierd as it looks you won't notice it when your playing. It took about 3 hours of play before I stopped noticing it.

 

[asbani]

Do you mean shake? Mine does not shake - I don't know if it shacks because I don't know what that means. Both of them hit very solid in my opinion. Neither of them shake after the hit. What do they mean by throw the cueball?

sorry i'm not very good in english. but what i meant is. after you shoot with OB1 doesn't it like Joggles especially when you put alot of english to the cueball. The shaft will joggles really fast? Like um i hope you understand what i mean.. Like it goes right/left quickly lol >_< my frends saying its not good anyways for a shaft. and that if a shaft doesn't do that which happened to be 314 is good. but I don't really understand them why is it when it joggles not good?

if joggles didn't do it try (Jounces, Shimmies really quick)

hope one of them works, if not i'm searching for a movie about it.

 

[memikey]

Perhaps the word you are looking for is "vibrates" asbani?

By the way, on the completely different subject of unclear thread titles and bearing in mind the content of some other recent threads, I genuinely thought at first glance at this one that it was going to be a thread about using chemical enhancements when playing. A psychologist would probably have a field day with me

 

[asbani]

Perhaps the word you are looking for is "vibrates" asbani?

By the way, on the completely different subject of unclear thread titles and bearing in mind the content of some other recent threads, I genuinely thought at first glance at this one that it was going to be a thread about using chemical enhancements when playing. A psychologist would probably have a field day with me

yep it is vibrates Thanks man for clearing that up and telling me the word. Now i know it and wont forget it I remember back in the old days when they been saying that meucci shafts has a very high vibrates which isn't good. now they saying the same about OB-1 here in my country which is annoying, I want to brove to them that they are wrong.

so anybody know why the shaft OB1 vibrates alot after alot of english, unlike 314. and is it good thing or bad thing?

 

[Gregg]

I have and use both of them. The only noticable difference is the sound that the 314-2 makes and the OB-1 doesn't. I think they are both excellent shafts. I have sniper tips on both of them and it kind of sucks because I can't figure out which one I like better. I don't have a bad thing to say about either of them. You will be happy with either one. IMO.
P.S. I did not vote because I can't vote for both.

BVal

I asked the mods to sticky this, but here it goes (again)
Every AZer can save valuable time and recourses if the two principles are studied and remembered (Scott Lee would tell you to get out your highlighter for this one)

1) Memorize this formula= OB-1>314^2
2) Morri is for wealthy old skoolers who have $40 to burn; Sniper is the new Morri.

 

[asbani]

thanks Gregg. are you the banker btw?

& bumping this because only 40 voted? Need more! even if you don't use c'mon just lets know your opinion.

 

[Gregg]

thanks Gregg. are you the banker btw?

& bumping this because only 40 voted? Need more! even if you don't use c'mon just lets know your opinion.

Both are very nice, and you should enjoy either or. Why not try them out for yourself? At the very least, it's hard not to find someone with a 314 at your local pool hall.

 

[BVal]

Both are very nice, and you should enjoy either or. Why not try them out for yourself? At the very least, it's hard not to find someone with a 314 at your local pool hall.

I agree. I see many 314's here in Phoenix but so far have only seen 4 OB-1's. The best thing to do is just what Gregg said. Try them for yourself.

BVal

 

[Runnin8]

Ob-1

Love the hit and the extra half table of action I get with it. I started off looking for a 314-2 to go on my SW and called Ron Geyer of Custom Cue Connection in San Antonio. He didn't have one but mentioned that he's been selling OB-1 at 10 to 1 over 314s. Could be that the folks that have predator are happy and people buying new engineered shafts are liking the OB-1. Not sure, but Ron found an OB-1 built for the SW and sent it to me. Can't be happier with the performance and Royce's customer service.

Steve