F/s Ginacue 17b
- Thread starter jor23_lin
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I hate shipping!!!
Whenever you do overseas shipping, Always ship USPS EMS Guaranteed!!!
It is the only way to ship, I have shipped to Japan no problem, it got there in 2-3 days, used it to ship to Canada, 3 days, they have an overnight service that is very pricey but the Guaranteed service is the only way to go. Glad the cue was insured, also, always insure for full value...see the older posts on shipping.
Whenever you do overseas shipping, Always ship USPS EMS Guaranteed!!!
It is the only way to ship, I have shipped to Japan no problem, it got there in 2-3 days, used it to ship to Canada, 3 days, they have an overnight service that is very pricey but the Guaranteed service is the only way to go. Glad the cue was insured, also, always insure for full value...see the older posts on shipping.
jor23_lin said:
If the cue goes thru alaska fish and game, they know what they are looking for and are grabbing cues! thomas wayne and ernie has lost cues there and also i heard that there were some szams that got grabbed. insuring them for a large amount just throws up flags! and with a lizard wrap will flag another problem. I hope and pray that it comes thru , for both of you fine gentleman. when i ship i go over night with small declaration value! the fish and game guy i talked to said they are getting alot of cues painted black with a water base paint and loaded with ivory.and they say it is usually indian ivory wich is not permitted under any law. so we can thank the people making cues and painting them black for all of our heart aches! Good luck guys and keep us posted!! BillBalance said:I still promise my dear friends Jor with my integrity
Cue is still missing in action. Jor continues to do his best to track down the cue from his end and has the insurance to cover him. I have filed a non-reciept of merchandise with Amex and they have initiated a chargeback . Hopefully the cue turns up but it isn't looking good at this point. I hated to do this but $3800 is too much dough to lose and they only give you a certain period of time to file for non reciept. I have to give Amex a little plug. They were super and couldn't be more understanding. They are by far the best CC company out there. Service is above and beyond.
What? Are you telling me that i will be the one who takes the responsbility for US customs?lenoxmjs said:
I did whatever you preferred and i can to help you to avoid customs just as the discussion we had before i shipped out the cue.
I put cue for repair on customs form and included a request letter to pretend i am REALLY asking for repair.
But now you regret.... huh... What a good dealer!
As a very good seller it is my responsibility to deliver the product that my customer pays for in as represented condition. As a buyer it is my responsibility to pay for an item that is recieved. C'mon Jor we went over this whole thing . You advertised the cue on an American websight. You knew the risk of shipping a cue with Ivory to the US. No matter weather you sold the cue to me or someone else the risk would have been the same. Let me remind you that your the one who even wanted to ship the cue uninsured and have me be ok with that risk. That insurance is going to save your ass so You should be thanking me instead of throwing in a cheap bash. We don't even know what happend to the cue yet so I think were getting a little ahead of ourselves don't you?
My only regret is that the cue didn't get here and I lost the deal I had in place( lost profit). 
The guy has since bought a different cue but you don't see me crying about that . Unfortunately you seem to want all of the rewards without any of the risks. World just doesn't work that way my friend.
The guy has since bought a different cue but you don't see me crying about that . Unfortunately you seem to want all of the rewards without any of the risks. World just doesn't work that way my friend.lenoxmjs said:
I did deliver the cue to you, didnt I?
I let you choose the shipping way, am i right?
But you just initiated chargeback without any confirmation@@''
So you didnt know the risk of shipping ivory to US? If so, what did you ask me who will be the one taking the resposbility? And my answer is what? I said i will do my best to help you to avoid getting confiscated by customs. And the reality is i did what i can, didnt I?
Who is the one who dont want to take any risk?lenoxmjs said:
As far as me initiating a charge back I had to do so before I paid my Amex bill for the month. If I had paid the bill I wouldn't have been able to initiate a chargeback in case the cue didn't show or you decided to keep my money and the insurance money. I'm not saying that you would do this but I had to cover my butt. The cue really should be here by now unless it was comming by way of pack mule and dolphin .You recieved payment on the 16th and shipped on the 19th so I am assuming the worst that the cue was lost or stolen. Yes you did everything the way I asked you to. Not really sure why this is an issue it was the correct way and gave the cue it's best chance of getting here and covered your butt with insurance. Which you wouldn't have had, had you shipped it your way,you would be out the cue and out the money.
jor23_lin said:
Sorry sir, but you did NOT deliver the cue. You only shipped it. Delivery means that your buyer received it. This apparently is not yet the case. Unless agreed to otherwise, the seller is responsible for ensuring that the cue arrives in the hands of the buyer, and you as seller have the responsibility for insuring it so that you recover your cost if it is lost, not the other way around. If the buyer requested that you not insure it, I would require payment, and he would be out if it is not delivered in hand, but that agreement would be accepted before hand in writing, not alleged after the fact.
Just a thought for future shipment. What if you insure it, and it is confiscated by customs. Will insurance cover the loss? Just curious. Seems hard to believe that insurance would cover potential illegality, not that it was done in this case.
lenoxmjs said:
That's my point!
You can withdrawl your money if the lost of parcel was confirmed. I am totally fine with that.
But what I am not happy with is you initiated chargeback before any confirmation was done.
You just take the money back if the item doesnt arrive within your expected delivery period.
To be a good dealer, you should make everything clear before the deal was done.
You should not ask me to sell the cue to the other person then you buy it back from him after we have made a deal.
In this case, no one would like to have business with you.