Yes sir. Just under.
Fargo Question. Rating going up without playing.
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I am kind of curious about fargorate movement with the LMS. For example can a player come into a bca league with about 60 robustness 376 fargo and after 2 weeks of play have his fargo adjusted 100 points higher. The average fargo rate of league is 410. I guess my question is can the league op just go ahead and change it?
The league operator can change the starter rating but the math is unaffected under the hood. The SR is not a factor in the MLE calculations.
I am not talking about starter rating he started as his actual fargo and got adjusted after 3 weeks played and 2 weeks off. He played at about 75% wins
I haven’t played in four months and after just checking I went up a few points. Seeing I haven’t picked up a cue in the last four months I’m sure my game has gone down.
The LO can’t just change someone’s Fargo rating. What they can change is the starter rating, which will influence what shows up on the app if he has only 60 games.
ok another example what if a player has 222 games robustness
Then the starter rating is out of the picture entirely. His FR is determined entirely by his results that are sent to FR Central. With 222 robustness, about the only way he is going up 100 points in a week is if he enters the US Open and finishes 3rd.
I am curious about this so let's see if I have the facts correct.
Player A 376 fr 60 robustness.
Plays 3 weeks( unknown # of games) against we are told ave 410 fr opponents.
Wins at 75% so isn't he at least playing 510 fr ?
The correct Fargorate rating difference for a 25%-75% split is about 160, so he would be playing at a 570 clip.
I am not complaining about fargo ratings in any way I am just trying to find out why some things happen. I have been submitting tournament results for around 6 years and no problem until recently when people ask me what happened with their rating.
Ok maybe makes sense but the 100 point jump after 2 weeks off seemed to be a lot. I will look up the fargos for the players he played in those 15 games. I am not knocking fargo I just want to know how the league management works
With a robustness of only 60, you could see a lot of movement
It's hard to know what's going on without seeing the individual record.
Here is an example of a possibility.
Let's say the player somehow had a starter rating of 325 from a prior league or something like that. And let's say the 60 games had the performance you'd expect of a 500. That would explain the 375 preliminary rating the guy showed up with.
After a few weeks in the new league, the LO has heard the player was an APA 5 in another town and sees there are now 100 games at, say, 490 speed. The LO decides to slide the starter guess to 450. That would make the preliminary rating people see 470.
The LO doesn't have unlimited authority to slide that starter guess around. He could not, for example, slide it from 325 to 300 in this case. That would be going against the direction of the evidence.
I have 500 robustness and a rating of 575. My last reported game was 2 months ago. Since then my rating week to week has gone down to 574 and up to 576 without me playing. I imagine players with less robustness will see less swing and players with grossly more robustness might not see any swing.
OK Mike let me ask the question in a different way without naming names. I spoke with the local bcapl division rep a few night ago and he told me the different fargo ratings are because LMS and BCAPL use 2 different data bases. If thats correct I can see why there would be a difference but it don't make sense to me. I am not speaking of just a couple of points. Thanks