Fargo Rate - Fair Race Calculator

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Isn't there a fair race calculator online somewhere based on Fargo ratings? Please post a link if possible.

I'm trying to figure out what the even race would be for the following matches:

638 vs 541
638 vs 597
638 vs 647
638 vs 663
638 vs 732
638 vs 743
 
apart of the app... Not sure if it's apart of the free use portion or not.

Frankly I don't think much of it. A 50pt variance supposedly equals a game on a race to 9.
 
Isn't there a fair race calculator online somewhere based on Fargo ratings? Please post a link if possible.

I'm trying to figure out what the even race would be for the following matches:

638 vs 541
638 vs 597
638 vs 647
638 vs 663
638 vs 732
638 vs 743
That's something you do in the mobile APP. Hit magnifying glass and then "find race." The "races" tab, shown here gives races of different length. HOT is the most handicapped (It gets as close to 50%/50% as it can without shifting advantage to lower-rated player. So, for example, if you want to do a race to 7, a 3-game spot (7-4 race) is the one. The highlighted race is the one that is closest to 50%/50%. The others might be 54%/46% or something like that. [You can check using the "odds" tab)

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apart of the app... Not sure if it's apart of the free use portion or not.

Frankly I don't think much of it. A 50pt variance supposedly equals a game on a race to 9.
Probably bit more than a game, since 100 is double, it's about 30 pts to a game in a race to 9.
 
Probably bit more than a game, since 100 is double, it's about 30 pts to a game in a race to 9.
Good call... I revisited it

However according to the "medium" which is typically considered "fair" contest. If my opponent is going to 9, then I'm going to 8. The 677 vs 726 comparison is drawn from a match up between me and the local top dog. No way, he'd be willing to give me 2 on the wire. (Hopefully this post will entice his ego into doing so ;) )
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If you do not mind me asking in this topic, has the pool community and organizers of tournaments come to a conclusion of what the fargorate cap is on what would be considered a top amateur?I've heard people say it's 660 and others say it's 700. Although I've also read that 700 is where the shortstop level range begins.
 
Good call... I revisited it

However according to the "medium" which is typically considered "fair" contest. If my opponent is going to 9, then I'm going to 8. The 677 vs 726 comparison is drawn from a match up between me and the local top dog. No way, he'd be willing to give me 2 on the wire. (Hopefully this post will entice his ego into doing so ;) )
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If he had a set he would go with the "hot" match. The "hot" still favors the better player. He ain't scuuuured is he? :p
 
If you are the lesser player...whatever you are offerred, ask for more. You can't let them break or you will lose 20% plus to break and runs.

Playing weaker players, you can give up a ton and outrun the nuts in a long race. If they can't run out the last 4 balls over 70%....there is no weight that can help them.
 
If you do not mind me asking in this topic, has the pool community and organizers of tournaments come to a conclusion of what the fargorate cap is on what would be considered a top amateur?I've heard people say it's 660 and others say it's 700. Although I've also read that 700 is where the shortstop level range begins.
I agree with the USAPL on this one, 720 is "professional", whatever that means.
 
If you do not mind me asking in this topic, has the pool community and organizers of tournaments come to a conclusion of what the fargorate cap is on what would be considered a top amateur?I've heard people say it's 660 and others say it's 700. Although I've also read that 700 is where the shortstop level range begins.
Until pool players evolve into beings without eyes, and become solely dependent on the numbers, there will never be a consensus, imo.

Based on my spd and that of others local to me. I'd say "shortstops" start at 700 spd. ...and even then they might be a bit of an underdog against the player willing to travel distances to gamble.

The CBSA (Canadian Billiard and Snooker Association) cap the Canadian Amateur event at 650 I believe. Bit of a farce to consider me a pro, but the gap between those at 649 and say 699 is cavernous. So I understand why they need to exclude those with actual ability that aren't pro spd. Far more <650 willing to open their wallets to play in the amateur if they think they won't face a "shortstop"
 
If you do not mind me asking in this topic, has the pool community and organizers of tournaments come to a conclusion of what the fargorate cap is on what would be considered a top amateur?I've heard people say it's 660 and others say it's 700. Although I've also read that 700 is where the shortstop level range begins.
According to the apa, low 700s is where the limit is for amateurs are. Of course it's not what they say because they seem to refuse to admit that any other rating scale exists aside from theirs, but based on the players that they allowed to play, that's what it is. I think that's a bit too high for leagues like the APA because their max levels can range from a Fargo 550 all the way up to those 700 range players. Basically you can have APA sevens playing in 8 ball where one of the sevens is twice as good as the other.
 
According to the apa, low 700s is where the limit is for amateurs are. Of course it's not what they say because they seem to refuse to admit that any other rating scale exists aside from theirs, but based on the players that they allowed to play, that's what it is. I think that's a bit too high for leagues like the APA because their max levels can range from a Fargo 550 all the way up to those 700 range players. Basically you can have APA sevens playing in 8 ball where one of the sevens is twice as good as the other.
At the APA tournament last year in Vegas they had several players well over 700. Even a player in the 750's.
 
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