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Fred Agnir
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jjinfla said:
What in the world are you talking about? Ray never won the US. 14.1 Tournament.
Fred
fast larry murdered the game of pool
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What in the world are you talking about? Ray never won the US. 14.1 Tournament.
Fred
Fred Agnir said:
Oh Fred, Ray is not going to like you at all. Look in the BCA rule book. Ray Martin won world titles in straight pool in 1971, 1974 and 1978. And in the ACCU stats video where Mike Sigel ran 150 and out on Mike Zuglan Ray was playing on the next table. I think he came in 4th. That was in 1992. I just happened to watch that video the other day. Actually it says that he was one of seven people to win three or more world 14.1 titles.
Jake
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onepocketchump
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Timberly said:I completely agree. I cannot/will not watch the trick shot shows on ESPN. They do not interest me whatsoever. Last yr at VF Shannon Daulton said "the sad thing is that joe q public thinks these guys are good pool players".
I bet Shannon didn't want much of Mike Massey in his prime. Mike plays world class pool. The trick shot guys are good pool players, definitely much better than average.
What they are is BETTER trick shot shooters. If all the "pool" players are so much better all they have to do is enter the tournments, win one - get the automatic invite to trick Shot Magic and snap off the $25,000.
I bet that Shannon would get his ass handed to him if he tried to go head to head in the shots that these guys know. Unless Shannon decided to put in the time practicing them like they do.
Jamison Neu has a high run in straight pool of 198. He has run nine racks of nine ball. He prefers trick shots because he says there is NO LUCK in it. you either make the shot or you don't and every player gets a crack at THE SAME SHOT.
This thread is about what a jerk off, ripoff artist Fast Larry is - NOT a condemnation of the trick shot guys out there who aren't frauds.
John
The funny thing is that Larry sent me an email on Saturday claiming that I said I liked the idea of a special area for him on the forums.
First off, I never said I liked the idea. I did say a long time ago that I thought Larry had some decent knowledge that he could share if he didn't let his ego and attitude get in the way.
I have not responded to Larry's email on Satuday because I was actually wondering if there was a way to make something like this happen. I see today that Larry is back on the 'Howie is attacking me under aliases' warpath over on RSB.
Guess that made the decision easy for me.
Mike
First off, I never said I liked the idea. I did say a long time ago that I thought Larry had some decent knowledge that he could share if he didn't let his ego and attitude get in the way.
I have not responded to Larry's email on Satuday because I was actually wondering if there was a way to make something like this happen. I see today that Larry is back on the 'Howie is attacking me under aliases' warpath over on RSB.
Guess that made the decision easy for me.
Mike
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Timberly
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Guess I hit a nerve. I wasn't trying to turn this into a condemnation of the trick shot artists & I never said that they couldn't shoot. The only trick shot artist that I really know of is Mike Massey because he was still playing 9 ball when I got into pool. Trick shots just aren't my thing. They don't interest me but I never said they can't shoot.onepocketchump said:
(If shannon reads this...sorry dude, didn't mean to put you in the middle of something you didn't ask to be in the middle of. I should've just said "someone")
Fast Larry isn't worth the electrons we just wasted on these posts.
It's a shame that FL's dog will never have a proper mate. In Canada we would put him in jail for that kind of relationship
Nick
Maybe we can get MTV to put him on "The Surreal Life"
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the_surreal_life_4/88629/episode.jhtml
It's a shame that FL's dog will never have a proper mate. In Canada we would put him in jail for that kind of relationship
Nick
Maybe we can get MTV to put him on "The Surreal Life"
http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/the_surreal_life_4/88629/episode.jhtml
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onepocketchump
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LowEnglish said:
You are delusional. Mike's speed is right up there with the top notchers. On any given day he can win any tournament he enters or beat any player he encounters. The difference is that Mike has a chance to win against Archer at nine ball but Archer has no chance to beat Mike in the Artistic Pool disciplines. - at least not without lot's of practice.
John
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onepocketchump
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Timberly said:Guess I hit a nerve. I wasn't trying to turn this into a condemnation of the trick shot artists & I never said that they couldn't shoot. The only trick shot artist that I really know of is Mike Massey because he was still playing 9 ball when I got into pool. Trick shots just aren't my thing. They don't interest me but I never said they can't shoot.
(If shannon reads this...sorry dude, didn't mean to put you in the middle of something you didn't ask to be in the middle of. I should've just said "someone")
You did - but I can't be mad at you. You'll just hit me with that smile and it'll be love and peace and butterflies.
Shannon and the others ought to be glad that something is on TV that is creating interest in pool and professional players.
John
I agree that mike massey is a great pool player no doubt. Didnt he run like 300 the most racks ever in a 24 hour time period. I know that pros can probably do more but it is respectable that he did it because it probably too alot of endurance staying up and doing that. Even without that I think that no matter what, any publicity is good publicity for pool. I bet that there are many people here and pros that started playing pool as a result of a trick shot exibition or show.
I saw Mike Massey play some of the best 9 ball ever played around 1988 when he won a $500 entry fee winner takes all mini tournament at one of the pro events in Atlanta. Everyone was amazed at how smooth he was playing. If he got out of line or missed a ball I never saw it. But he was not as consistant day in and day out as the four or five top pros on the tour at the time, but that night he made all comers look like amateurs. But I think you all missed the great part of the title of this thread. We can all blaim Fast Larry when we don't shoot well. After all he murdered pool.
onepocketchump said:
Sorry but you don't know what you're talking about. I've competed against Mike in 9-ball tournaments, I've watched him play in 9-ball tournaments countless times and he won one of them with an somewhat easy field and I've never seen him do well in any of them after that. I don't know where you get your any given day notion, because Mike cannot beat Archer or any top player on any given day. He would have to be in dead punch and the rolls would need to be going his way. Like I said, he plays at the shortstop level and once in a great while he might beat someone like Archer, but not on any given day.
massie
When you get the time between KNOCKing read mikes book!!! He was a real road hog when I saw him play & soo nice.LowEnglish said:
Nick Nickolaidis
Actually, that record is by Nick “Quick Nick” Nickolaidis, who was in the finals vs. massey in trick shot magic. he sunk almost 17,000 balls in 24 hours--that's one rack every minute and 15 seconds for 24 hours straight.
http://www.newsfinder.org/comments.php?id=30_0_1_0_C
Hershel said:
Actually, that record is by Nick “Quick Nick” Nickolaidis, who was in the finals vs. massey in trick shot magic. he sunk almost 17,000 balls in 24 hours--that's one rack every minute and 15 seconds for 24 hours straight.
http://www.newsfinder.org/comments.php?id=30_0_1_0_C
B.J.the bandit said:When you get the time between KNOCKing read mikes book!!! He was a real road hog when I saw him play & soo nice.
Why can't you guys understand that Massey doesn't play pool as good as he used to. Sure he played great in his younger years, but I am talking about the present, as in right now and of recent. I didn't say he never played great, I said he does not play world class pool, and he doesn't anymore.
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onepocketchump
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cueman said:
FL is committing attempted murder every time he picks up a cue or opens his mouth. The good thing is that his reach is limited.
John
Nick B said:
That is an excellent idea! Sorry nobody noticed, but I think it is brilliant
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Fred Agnir
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I knew that, and so did many others. You apparently did not. Ray never won the US 14.1 Open, as I said. Sheesh. Ray will like me because I can read and follow history.jjinfla said:
And before you decide to educate me on something else, Steve Mizerak won the US 14.1 Open four years, in succession.
Fred
I don't think it was clear you meant Mike M. is a shortstop now but a great player before, LowEnglish... it seemed you were saying he never was that good a player. He shot pretty good snooker too, for an American.
How many players his age are that much better than him might be a better thing to consider.
He makes a good living, is one of the nicest guys in pool, and makes trick shots that are so hard I believe they had to change the rules in the trick shot tourneys because people couldn't do his power stroke shots.
How many players his age are that much better than him might be a better thing to consider.
He makes a good living, is one of the nicest guys in pool, and makes trick shots that are so hard I believe they had to change the rules in the trick shot tourneys because people couldn't do his power stroke shots.
I love how people can bash people that are soo well known around the world with ease online. Any of you that say that hes a crappy player will never have the name he does.....its as simple as that.
Also, I think that anything that brings attention to the pool world is good. Pool isn't considered a sport by many people and pro pool players are underappreciated for what they do. This might help bring more attention to the game and get more people interested.
Also, I think that anything that brings attention to the pool world is good. Pool isn't considered a sport by many people and pro pool players are underappreciated for what they do. This might help bring more attention to the game and get more people interested.