I have a report from an eyewitness, who said there was a radar gun experiment in the practice room at a major tournament in the mid-90's - the 2 fastest breaks were both 35 mph by Bustamante and Breedlove. I don't know which other players participated, but the witness said it was a lot of players, and most of the top players (whatever and whomever that means).
Fastest Break Speed Ever Recorded?
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Glad to hear that the brains of this board have't run you off, thanks. I am sure if they listened to you they might learn something, oops they allready know, my bad. Seriously though, at APA nationals in Vegas every year they have a break contest, either with the gun or balls. It was two years ago I believe they had the gun and a decent player was breaking 30 mph pretty steady. He was a 7 in 9ball along with me and might have gotten the the 7. I beat him 4 or 5 mini tourn. One of them I held him to 3 balls, I was a 7 then and got raised shortly thereafter. Breaking the balls hard is allright if you can get a shot but look at Corey Deul. He has something to that soft break of his.
This kid at Vegas won like 7 or 8 Sardo tight racks for winning the break contest and could not get inthe money in the minis. Anyway glad to have you back.
MOUSE
This kid at Vegas won like 7 or 8 Sardo tight racks for winning the break contest and could not get inthe money in the minis. Anyway glad to have you back.
MOUSE
I think there has been a speed gun at US Open's during the last few years. Most of the pros break around 20 mph at real tournament matches and with some more body movement they get it to 22 mph. Well, when Bustamante was breaking hard, he had it up to 25 mph. I think going over 25 mph won't give you any benefit, because your cueball control goes out of the window, cueball is more easily being kicked out of the prime position or kicked in the pocket etc.
Btw, for me a 25 mph break seems like a very very hard break, cannot imagine a 35 mph break !
Btw, for me a 25 mph break seems like a very very hard break, cannot imagine a 35 mph break !
whitewolf said:
My golf swing is around 105 with my driver. Taken on an indoor range. You can get golf radars to register club head speed for 100.00 or so. The following chart can help you get an approximation of your golf swing speed:
SWING SPEED CONVERSION CHART
When a swing speed device is not available, this chart may be used to approximate swing speed based on driver carry distance or the club used to approach the green from 150 yards. (Based on average club lengths and lofts.)
Shaft Flex Driver
Swing Speed (MPH) Driver
Carry Distance (yds.) Club From 150 yds.
Extra-Stiff 105-plus 260 + 8 or 9-iron
Stiff 90-105 240-260 6 or 7-iron
Regular 80-95 210-240 5 or 6-iron
Flexible (A-Flex) 70-85 180-210 4-iron
Ladies' Less than 70 Less than 180 3-iron/lofted wood
As far as cost of radar guns, they range from a couple hundred to a couple thousand. For the lower speeds, seems that you wouldnt need the very expensive ones. Look for baseball/softball radar guns, they would work for pool. http://www.bizrate.com/buy/products__att372574--362183-,cat_id--12020300.html
FWIW
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drivermaker
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whitewolf said:
Sure, I use a special radar gun for golf just about every day. My speed is between 112 -115 mph. Each mph equates to about 2.31 yards. In other words, a 10 mph difference would be over 23 yards, all things being equal in testing parameters. They're only good for golf swings, not pool or anything else. They run about $139.00.
whitewolf said:
WW,
My swing was consistently in the 94-98 mph range. I have a very good swing (ie. patterned on Gene Littler/Don January), handicap usually between 4 and 8, BUT even swinging as hard as I can, I can usually never get above 105 (with totally unuseable results). I think I may not be built for the game, that's why I've just about given up on golf - I think I'll go downstairs and practice my pool for 6 or 7 hours.
There is a radar gun sold specifically for pool by one of the posters here (ceebee), I think the website is www.breakrak.com (or something like that - some other poster will know if you ask in a new thread). It has some issues with fluorescent lights; but I'm planning on getting one soon.
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Break Speed
I have been to numerous tournaments where the good breaks are right around 28-30 mph. Last year I was at a tournament and they clocked me at 34.
visit my website at www.michigankid.com
I am on the Pro Artistic Pool Tour. Our next stop is the Bicycle club casino in California on Jan 12-16 for the 2004 World championships.
I have been to numerous tournaments where the good breaks are right around 28-30 mph. Last year I was at a tournament and they clocked me at 34.
visit my website at www.michigankid.com
I am on the Pro Artistic Pool Tour. Our next stop is the Bicycle club casino in California on Jan 12-16 for the 2004 World championships.
drivermaker
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michigankid said:
Kid...I have a question. First of all, in artistic pool I know that you have to have a really powerful stroke to pull off a number of those power draws so I do believe the 34 mph. And in golf, the power guys on the long drive circuit that I work with will cave in a driver head or snap shafts like a toothpick, and in baseball they'll also splinter bats like nothing. But how in the hell do you break 10 cue balls. I've never even seen that on one?
all i know
i was clocked at 31.2 by the "bar system" rail clock i call it. and 33.2 on the gun. and im no pro. did win 150$ for fastest speed.???? and i have broke a few object balls 7 or so.im sure the were cracked or chunked out though. never seen a cue ball split though?
i was clocked at 31.2 by the "bar system" rail clock i call it. and 33.2 on the gun. and im no pro. did win 150$ for fastest speed.???? and i have broke a few object balls 7 or so.im sure the were cracked or chunked out though. never seen a cue ball split though?
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whitewolf said:
My best friend has a golf shop, with a GolfTech analyser. It says that my swing speed with a 43" driver is about 95mph. I can go higher, but control suffers (to put it mildly). With a 45" driver I get a bit more speed, but that control thing bites me again
With a 5 iron I swing about 75-80mph iirc.Cam had a little inexpensive swing speed monitor, one that used a small adhesive magnet applied to the club head. It seemed fairly accurate and was not a lot of money.
He also just got a launch monitor, that will tell you ball-speed, trajectory, and spin rate. It is very cool, but not inexpensive.
Dave
michigankid
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Cue Balls Broken.
The Cheaper balls used on the bar boxes have a metal cage in them that acts like a tuning fork if the ball is hit hard and solid enough.
To date, the list is 1 red dot cue ball, 7 really cheap bar balls, two medium bar balls a one ball (new belgium aramith broken where the number meets the rest of the ball) and a rock cue ball. I will post a picture of some of them on my website in the next couple days.
drivermaker said:
The Cheaper balls used on the bar boxes have a metal cage in them that acts like a tuning fork if the ball is hit hard and solid enough.
To date, the list is 1 red dot cue ball, 7 really cheap bar balls, two medium bar balls a one ball (new belgium aramith broken where the number meets the rest of the ball) and a rock cue ball. I will post a picture of some of them on my website in the next couple days.
I thought I would resurrect this thread so that we can start comparing break speeds since ther eis a break speed app for android and iPhone out there now that everyone and their brother are using.
I had my break clocked at 19.35 Mph (made 2 balls on the break with a good spread - thsi is what I usually use)
Then clocked at 26.85 Mph when someone scoffed at me.
Didnt sink a single ball but the CB stayed on the table and actually settled nicely in the middle of the table. The balls looked like tiny beetles scurrying about looking for a home.
I like around a 20 mph break for 8-ball. Little bit more for 9-ball and about 15 Mph for 10-ball. Nice spread and I usually get a ball or two.
Regards,
Lesh
I had my break clocked at 19.35 Mph (made 2 balls on the break with a good spread - thsi is what I usually use)
Then clocked at 26.85 Mph when someone scoffed at me.
Didnt sink a single ball but the CB stayed on the table and actually settled nicely in the middle of the table. The balls looked like tiny beetles scurrying about looking for a home.
I like around a 20 mph break for 8-ball. Little bit more for 9-ball and about 15 Mph for 10-ball. Nice spread and I usually get a ball or two.
Regards,
Lesh
