FedEx Shipping Tube, policy change.

Hersheybarbilli

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FedEx Shipping Tube, policy change?

I love to ship cues via Federal Express in the tubes they provide. Never had any problems and rates are reasonable.

Today the clerk at the counter told me that $500.00 was the max declared value you can state while using a tube and using express service. I asked about it as I have shipped many cues with higher decaled values before. She said it was a fairly new policy and that I could call Fed Ex for more info or for ways to ship more expensive items.

Anyone else have this experience or know anything about it?

Thanks!
 
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Hersheybarbilli said:
I love to ship cues via Federal Express in the tubes they provide. Never had any problems and rates are reasonable.

Today the clerk at the counter told me that $500.00 was the max declared value you can state while using a tube and using express service. I asked about it as I have shipped many cues with higher decaled values before. She said it was a fairly new policy and that I could call Fed Ex for more info or for ways to ship more expensive items.

Anyone else have this experience or know anything about it?

Thanks!

I always used Fedex overnight a lot. They just continue to change rules just as you speak of. Awhile back I was going to send out a cue and the person @ Kinko's made me cut open the package and show the contents. I wasn't real happy about it.

As of a couple of a few weeks ago, I am now going to start shipping everything via United States Postal Service Express. Less hassle anymore.

Good luck,
Jimmy
 
Jimmyrayk said:
I always used Fedex overnight a lot. They just continue to change rules just as you speak of. Awhile back I was going to send out a cue and the person @ Kinko's made me cut open the package and show the contents. I wasn't real happy about it.

As of a couple of a few weeks ago, I am now going to start shipping everything via United States Postal Service Express. Less hassle anymore.

Good luck,
Jimmy

Thanks. I usually use the 2 day service. But if $500 is the max value, it does not work anymore. Too bad, the lines at the Post Office can be brutal. FedEx is (was) really easy to get in and out of.
 
i have yet to do this but you can change that if you have an account.

you speak to a rep who handles you, and set up a special account with a higher merchandise value.
 
use U.S. Post Office

hi all

my suggestion is use USPS with Register mail. this service carry a high value, no matter how much, as long as you declare the value of the content. but the only downside to it, is always takes about 3-5 bussiness day depend on from zip code to zip code. you can track the package & all but update are slow as they only update where the package is when is reach at certain location. i ship very very high value with this method once or twice a week & never seem to have a problem.

wawacue
 
bruin70 said:
i have yet to do this but you can change that if you have an account.

you speak to a rep who handles you, and set up a special account with a higher merchandise value.

Interesting. I have an account but the clerk said nothing about what you speak of. I'll look into it, thanks!
 
wawacue said:
hi all

my suggestion is use USPS with Register mail. this service carry a high value, no matter how much, as long as you declare the value of the content. but the only downside to it, is always takes about 3-5 bussiness day depend on from zip code to zip code. you can track the package & all but update are slow as they only update where the package is when is reach at certain location. i ship very very high value with this method once or twice a week & never seem to have a problem.

wawacue


Most of my deals are for lower value cues, unlike yours, and it seems like everyone I ever ship to wants the cue fast, fast ,fast. Many offers are based on overnight shipping only. They are worried about the cue being exposed to heat, cold... whatever it may be. Do you not find the same with your dealings in the upper end cues?
 
wawacue said:
hi all

my suggestion is use USPS with Register mail....... but the only downside to it, is always takes about 3-5 bussiness day depend on from zip code to zip code.

not entirely true. there is NO set delivey time period. it could take much longer than 5 days. i sent a package from indiana to georgia and it took 9 days.
 
Shipping insurance

Hi ,
Fed ex limit I do not know but they have left cues on my door step that are signature required on three different times . I would not use them ever again one package was valued at 7,500.00.

USPS limit on Express is 5,000.00 max

UPS I was told I could put 55,000.00 dollars of insurance if it was needed.By the owner of a UPS store.
They are not cheap It would cost 115.00 to insure a cue for 11,000.00 by express + shipping fees total approx 171.00
They did get it there by 10:30 am

I use USPS express on most of my cues & UPS on high end ones.
 
Hersheybarbilli said:
Interesting. I have an account but the clerk said nothing about what you speak of. I'll look into it, thanks!

YOU HAVE TO CALL 800-GOFEDEX

you already have an account rep, or one will be assigned to you.
as far as usps.....who wants to send a cue that might be sitting in some warehouse for 3 days or more!!!
 
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They told me that they offer something like insurance, the difference being that all you'd have to do is prove the item's worth. that shouldn't be too hard. actually since cues sometimes sell for less than they retail for it might actually work out better if something did happen
 
F.Y.I.

The Post Office will only insure the package for the 'real true value' of the item and you must have the original receipt. If you have an original Tad cue you bought 20 years ago for $300 and you just sold it for $7,000 on ebay you can not insure it for $7000
 
Bill:

Ever since the USPS new rates went into effect (5/14/07 or so), it has been far cheaper to ship overnight by USPS Express Mail than by FedEx Express overnight. That's because although the postal rate went up by a couple of bucks on Express Mail shipments, the Postal Service cut the insurance rate by about two-thirds. So, if I ship a $3,400.00 cue to LA by Express Mail, it will cost be about $34.70. If I ship the same valued cue to LA by FedEx standard overnight (assuming that they will cover a loss of $3,400.00 on the cue), it will cost at least $60.00. So, never use FedEx to ship overnight. They rip people off on overnight shipping. Besides, the Postal Service will refund the cost to ship, minus the insurance charge, if they fail to deliver on time. Now that's a deal. It's almost as good as a Quality Cues guaranty on satisfaction.
 
USPS Shipping

Quality Cues said:
Bill:

Ever since the USPS new rates went into effect (5/14/07 or so), it has been far cheaper to ship overnight by USPS Express Mail than by FedEx Express overnight. That's because although the postal rate went up by a couple of bucks on Express Mail shipments, the Postal Service cut the insurance rate by about two-thirds. So, if I ship a $3,400.00 cue to LA by Express Mail, it will cost be about $34.70. If I ship the same valued cue to LA by FedEx standard overnight (assuming that they will cover a loss of $3,400.00 on the cue), it will cost at least $60.00. So, never use FedEx to ship overnight. They rip people off on overnight shipping. Besides, the Postal Service will refund the cost to ship, minus the insurance charge, if they fail to deliver on time. Now that's a deal. It's almost as good as a Quality Cues guaranty on satisfaction.
Thanks for this information Mike. It worked out great on the White cue I sold you recently and it saved both of us some shipping money. You can insure your cue through the USPS for a resonable price and it's delivered on time or you get a shipping refund and that's a good deal.....
 
nthamix said:
F.Y.I.

The Post Office will only insure the package for the 'real true value' of the item and you must have the original receipt. If you have an original Tad cue you bought 20 years ago for $300 and you just sold it for $7,000 on ebay you can not insure it for $7000

things must have changed in the last year then cause' my three cues that i shipped were insured for $10,000 with no receipts. they were worth more but two of them were replaceable made by my partner Keith.
 
Obviously, I was concerned hearing this. Here is their policy. To be sure I was covered, I waded through this long ago and it's the same as I remember it.


Declared Value and Limits of Liability (Not Insurance Coverage)

A. The declared value of any package represents our maximum liability in connection with a shipment of that package, including, but not limited to, any loss, damage, delay, misdelivery, nondelivery, misinformation, any failure to provide information, or misdelivery of information relating to the shipment. It is the shipper's responsibility to prove actual damages. Exposure to and risk of any loss in excess of the declared value is assumed by the shipper. You may transfer this risk to an insurance carrier of your choice through the purchase of an insurance policy. Contact an insurance agent or broker if you desire insurance coverage. WE DO NOT PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE OF ANY KIND.

B. With respect to U.S. express package services, unless a higher value is declared and paid for, our liability for each package is limited to US$100. For each package exceeding US$100 in declared value, an additional amount will be charged. See Rates in the FedEx Service Guide for details.


D. Except as limited below, the maximum declared value per package in any FedEx First Overnight, FedEx Priority Overnight, FedEx Standard Overnight, FedEx 2Day or FedEx Express Saver shipment is US$50,000. The maximum declared value per shipment for FedEx SameDay is US$2,000.

F. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500:

1. Artwork, including any work created or developed by the application of skill, taste or creative talent for sale, display or collection. This includes, but is not limited to, items (and their parts) such as paintings, drawings, vases, tapestries, limited-edition prints, fine art, statuary, sculpture and collector's items.

2. Film, photographic images (including photographic negatives), photographic chromes and photographic slides.

3. Any commodity that by its inherent nature is particularly susceptible to damage or the market value of which is particularly variable or difficult to ascertain.

4. Antiques, or any commodity that exhibits the style or fashion of a past era and whose history, age or rarity contributes to its value. These items include, but are not limited to, furniture, tableware and glassware.

5. Glassware, including, but not limited to, signs, mirrors, ceramics, porcelains, china, crystal, glass, framed glass, and any other commodity with similarly fragile qualities.

6. Plasma screens.

7. Jewelry, including, but not limited to, costume jewelry, watches and their parts, mount gems or stones (precious or semiprecious), industrial diamonds, and jewelry made of precious metal.

8. Furs, including, but not limited to, fur clothing, fur-trimmed clothing and fur pelts.

9. Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).

10. Stocks, bonds, cash letters or cash equivalents, including, but not limited to, food stamps, postage stamps (not collectible), traveler's checks, lottery tickets, money orders, gift cards and gift certificates, prepaid calling cards (excluding those that require a code for activation), bond coupons, and bearer bonds.

11. Ostrich and emu eggs.

12. Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)

13. Guitars and other musical instruments that are more than 20 years old, and customized or personalized musical instruments.

G. The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US$500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.)

ANY EFFORT TO DECLARE A VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE MAXIMUMS ALLOWED IN THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE IS NULL AND VOID. OUR ACCEPTANCE FOR CARRIAGE OF ANY SHIPMENT BEARING A DECLARED VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE ALLOWED MAXIMUMS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A WAIVER OF ANY PROVISION OF THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE AS TO SUCH SHIPMENT.
M. REGARDLESS OF THE DECLARED VALUE OF A PACKAGE, OUR LIABILITY FOR LOSS, DAMAGE, DELAY, MISDELIVERY, NONDELIVERY, MISINFORMATION, ANY FAILURE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, OR MISDELIVERY OF INFORMATION, WILL NOT EXCEED A SHIPMENT'S REPAIR COST, ITS DEPRECIATED VALUE OR ITS REPLACEMENT COST, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
N. The shipper is responsible for accurately completing the airbill or other shipping documents, including completion of the declared-value section. We cannot honor requests to change the declared-value information on the airbill.


I believe the clerk is in error, unless the cue is very old, say, several hundred years, and would be considered an antique. If you investigate and find differently, please let me know. As long as I can remember, this has been their policy. They do exclude the FedEx envelopes here, but boxes are not mentioned.

In reference to collectors items, they specifically refer to fine art (which cues are not in the same class) and antiques (which most cues are not), and sports memorabilia, cards etc.

My thinking is even with all the outs they leave themselves, they would have to cover cues since they are not specifically excluded and not covered under any of the exclusions.

Please let us know what you find out, Bill,

Chris
 
TATE said:
Obviously, I was concerned hearing this. Here is their policy. To be sure I was covered, I waded through this long ago and it's the same as I remember it.


Declared Value and Limits of Liability (Not Insurance Coverage)

A. The declared value of any package represents our maximum liability in connection with a shipment of that package, including, but not limited to, any loss, damage, delay, misdelivery, nondelivery, misinformation, any failure to provide information, or misdelivery of information relating to the shipment. It is the shipper's responsibility to prove actual damages. Exposure to and risk of any loss in excess of the declared value is assumed by the shipper. You may transfer this risk to an insurance carrier of your choice through the purchase of an insurance policy. Contact an insurance agent or broker if you desire insurance coverage. WE DO NOT PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE OF ANY KIND.

B. With respect to U.S. express package services, unless a higher value is declared and paid for, our liability for each package is limited to US$100. For each package exceeding US$100 in declared value, an additional amount will be charged. See Rates in the FedEx Service Guide for details.


D. Except as limited below, the maximum declared value per package in any FedEx First Overnight, FedEx Priority Overnight, FedEx Standard Overnight, FedEx 2Day or FedEx Express Saver shipment is US$50,000. The maximum declared value per shipment for FedEx SameDay is US$2,000.

F. Shipments (packages or freight) containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of US$500:

1. Artwork, including any work created or developed by the application of skill, taste or creative talent for sale, display or collection. This includes, but is not limited to, items (and their parts) such as paintings, drawings, vases, tapestries, limited-edition prints, fine art, statuary, sculpture and collector's items.

2. Film, photographic images (including photographic negatives), photographic chromes and photographic slides.

3. Any commodity that by its inherent nature is particularly susceptible to damage or the market value of which is particularly variable or difficult to ascertain.

4. Antiques, or any commodity that exhibits the style or fashion of a past era and whose history, age or rarity contributes to its value. These items include, but are not limited to, furniture, tableware and glassware.

5. Glassware, including, but not limited to, signs, mirrors, ceramics, porcelains, china, crystal, glass, framed glass, and any other commodity with similarly fragile qualities.

6. Plasma screens.

7. Jewelry, including, but not limited to, costume jewelry, watches and their parts, mount gems or stones (precious or semiprecious), industrial diamonds, and jewelry made of precious metal.

8. Furs, including, but not limited to, fur clothing, fur-trimmed clothing and fur pelts.

9. Precious metals, including, but not limited to, gold and silver bullion or dust, precipitates, or platinum (except as an integral part of electronic machinery).

10. Stocks, bonds, cash letters or cash equivalents, including, but not limited to, food stamps, postage stamps (not collectible), traveler's checks, lottery tickets, money orders, gift cards and gift certificates, prepaid calling cards (excluding those that require a code for activation), bond coupons, and bearer bonds.

11. Ostrich and emu eggs.

12. Collector's items such as sports cards, souvenirs and memorabilia. (Collector's coins and stamps may not be shipped. See the Prohibited Items section.)

13. Guitars and other musical instruments that are more than 20 years old, and customized or personalized musical instruments.

G. The maximum declared value for the contents of any FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak is US$500. Goods with a value (actual or declared) exceeding US$500 should not be shipped in a FedEx Envelope or FedEx Pak. (This limitation does not apply to items shipped utilizing the FedEx Large or Small Clinical Pak.)

ANY EFFORT TO DECLARE A VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE MAXIMUMS ALLOWED IN THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE IS NULL AND VOID. OUR ACCEPTANCE FOR CARRIAGE OF ANY SHIPMENT BEARING A DECLARED VALUE IN EXCESS OF THE ALLOWED MAXIMUMS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A WAIVER OF ANY PROVISION OF THE FEDEX SERVICE GUIDE AS TO SUCH SHIPMENT.
M. REGARDLESS OF THE DECLARED VALUE OF A PACKAGE, OUR LIABILITY FOR LOSS, DAMAGE, DELAY, MISDELIVERY, NONDELIVERY, MISINFORMATION, ANY FAILURE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION, OR MISDELIVERY OF INFORMATION, WILL NOT EXCEED A SHIPMENT'S REPAIR COST, ITS DEPRECIATED VALUE OR ITS REPLACEMENT COST, WHICHEVER IS LESS.
N. The shipper is responsible for accurately completing the airbill or other shipping documents, including completion of the declared-value section. We cannot honor requests to change the declared-value information on the airbill.


I believe the clerk is in error, unless the cue is very old, say, several hundred years, and would be considered an antique. If you investigate and find differently, please let me know. As long as I can remember, this has been their policy. They do exclude the FedEx envelopes here, but boxes are not mentioned.

In reference to collectors items, they specifically refer to fine art (which cues are not in the same class) and antiques (which most cues are not), and sports memorabilia, cards etc.

My thinking is even with all the outs they leave themselves, they would have to cover cues since they are not specifically excluded and not covered under any of the exclusions.

Please let us know what you find out, Bill,

Chris

It's my understanding that the FedEx collectible limit would apply to a pool cue claim. Paying off big $$ for one of a kind items is EXACTLY what they are trying to avoid. All talk about coverage is just talk, until it comes to actually filing a claim, and at that time you are dealing with an entiely different entity at FedEx, not the clerks for sure. I'm my humble opinion, USPS is the only way to go, they sell insurance, not some "declared value" for "limits of liability". USPS claims are easy and pay off easily if it is done correctly. Besides that, you can control USPS not to leave it at the door which is a near impossibility for FedEx. Plus you can get coverage for up to 25K. Plus, if you go Registered Mail Priority Mail it gets anywhere in the US in 3 days and is a dead-nuts-lock-guarantee to arrive.
 
TATE said:
Obviously, I was concerned hearing this. Here is their policy. To be sure I was covered, I waded through this long ago and it's the same as I remember it.



I believe the clerk is in error, unless the cue is very old, say, several hundred years, and would be considered an antique. If you investigate and find differently, please let me know. As long as I can remember, this has been their policy. They do exclude the FedEx envelopes here, but boxes are not mentioned.

In reference to collectors items, they specifically refer to fine art (which cues are not in the same class) and antiques (which most cues are not), and sports memorabilia, cards etc.

My thinking is even with all the outs they leave themselves, they would have to cover cues since they are not specifically excluded and not covered under any of the exclusions.

Please let us know what you find out, Bill,

Chris


Chris,

I think you are right, as usual. I'll put in a phone call on Monday to try and clarify. I'm really not shipping many cues around, so personally I'm not very concerened. I can deal with less convenient methods for as little as I am shipping.

I just found it odd that just now a clerk tells me this, after I've shipped plenty of cues over the $500 threshold. Never had it come up before.

Thanks,
Bill
 
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