Fedor Gorst on the Joe Rogan podcast today

Fedor would also like it to be an all-around with 9b, 10b, banks, 1hole.
Understandably. Fedor a favorite at both banks and one pocket. Three DCC Master of the Table awards in four years tells you all you need to know. In recent years, Filler has won far more major titles than Fedor in rotation games.
 
Understandably. Fedor a favorite at both banks and one pocket. Three DCC Master of the Table awards in four years tells you all you need to know. In recent years, Filler has won far more major titles than Fedor in rotation games.
And if they went to 14.1 as a tiebreaker, i think Filler would have a pretty big advantage
 
I enjoyed listening to him talk about pressure . In my head I think players like him don’t get affected by it but him talking about learning to deal with it. That his hands were trembling and arm feels weak on big moments like running out for the 250k was eye opening to me
 
I haven't listened yet but enjoyed his last appearance. Nice to see him back for a second time.

I tossed this pic in this post.... because Joe in the beginning was talking about Reds/Houston/Reyes.



Reds pool room Houston, Bata showed, most all were there. Mike Massey and the boys early 80's. Some tall dude is holdin' court ;). Vickery on the left got locked up. The Brun up front, W. Coaster, picked mostly winners.
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I enjoyed listening to him talk about pressure . In my head I think players like him don’t get affected by it but him talking about learning to deal with it. That his hands were trembling and arm feels weak on big moments like running out for the 250k was eye opening to me

i think they all get, to a degree. shane shakes visibly sometimes, nick varner does too. they're human. but they still harness their nervous energy and win. filler has a lot of visible nervous energy, he really feeds off it. gerson martinez is maybe the most extreme of the current crop
 
Rogan must not follow the game. Fedor has not won even one title at 9ball or 10ball in 2025. It's a very strange time to try to label him the best of all time. For the true greats, nothing but titles will ever suffice, and Fedor is a true great. He will likely be in the GOAT discussion one day, but he is not in it yet.

While Filler has won several giant field events in rotation pool this year, even he cannot logically be compared to Yapp right now, who has done the almost unfathomable in winning three straight WNT majors. Yapp, who also won the International 9ball in November, is the best right now and, until further notice, Josh and Fedor are chasing.

It's a fun time to be watching pro pool, and yes, there is a dominant player in the game right now. His name is Yapp. Josh and Fedor know it, too. Someone should tell Rogan.
 
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I was able to listen to the podcast and the two most interesting points to me were:

1. Fedor and Filler long race match sounds like it was being negotiated but has since stalled. Joe was very interested in seeing it happen and possibly doing commentary if they set it up in Austin.

2. Top golf founders raising $34m to do something similar with pool.
Nice... I too had a couple. But only saw 50 minutes so far.

A. 9 ball break.... during the shoot.... ''Rogan said he was told to aim at the ''back ball'' then Gorsts body language said he was not to tell us. :)
B. Quote Gorst on playin' good.... ''all comes down to how much time you spend on the table''.
 
A. 9 ball break.... during the shoot.... ''Rogan said he was told to aim at the ''back ball'' then Gorsts body language said he was not to tell us. :)
9 Ball break: :ninja:

I've never really mentioned it before because I didn't think it was something unique. I'd guess anyone who's toyed with the break has done it. You can tune your break and find good breaks by finding aim points in the rack. You can aim at balls, the spaces between balls(half ball hit), or fractions of most balls in the rack while hitting the 1B. You can use different spins to do different things like parking the CB or going to 1 or 2 rails for shape or to re-smash the rack. The rear ball, the next to the rear two balls, or the space in between the 9 and a neighboring ball can all produce. It depends on your goals for the CB and what you wish to accomplish. The 1B is more wired into the side with 9 on the spot, but it can be done most of the time with 9 on the spot too.

If you're doing a cut break, from anywhere from the rail to about 1/2 diamond out you can pretty much shoot for the third diamond on the end rail with some low right. This will park the CB about a foot from the 1B, make the wing, and a big chance to make the 1B in the side. Your goal is 1B in the side, which lets you really tune how you are breaking. Once you get so you can make the 1B in the side 4/5 times you know you are breaking consistently. While practicing do this with a template for consistency. Even if you switch to a wood rack, this break still works well... but it's harder to make the 1B in the side, especially if there is any space in the second row (row behind the 1B).

I mention this gap between the second row balls because if you're playing in league this second row space is almost always there and it can be hard to freeze those balls if the cloth is old and has a "memory." I feel that this gap is more common on tables where 8B is played a lot. I think the second row balls try to "squeeze out" more on 8B both due to more rack mass and second ball breaks being used. The result is the cloth is crushed outwards, making the second row cloth divots more oblong, pointing at the side rails. The balls want to roll out and not stay frozen as they would with a single divot.

This sounds silly but if you've ever replaced cloth on a table, there will be fine lines on the slate where you can see the track lines of a break and where the balls go. If you play more 9B, you can still see faint lines where the 8 ball break tracks. I suggest taking a reference picture if you want to study.

In 9B if any gap exists between the second row, like if you could fit a cigarette rolling paper in there, you're much better off breaking closer to where the pro break box is, or at least 1 diamond off the rail. Find the exact diamond line and put either of the CB's edge on that line. If on an unfamiliar table, break hard because a wing ball isn't guaranteed if that gap is in the second row.
 
Rogan must not follow the game.
Oh, he sure does, sjm. Rogan was just being provocative about Gorst being the greatest ever. So I won’t bother to explain his, ah, reasoning. He later said he thought SVB was probably the greatest ever.

The guy is a total pool nerd. It was obvious he watched the WPC, Florida Open and U.S. Open. Among the various players he brought up were Reyes, Soufi, Souquet, Parica, Bustamante, Willie Hoppe, the Ko brothers, Biado, Filler, Yapp, Feijin. Said Ko Ping Ching is his favorite player and waxed on about little Ko’s "perfect" U.S. Open win.

Threw in some talk about Rony O’Sullivan too. Doubt most Rogan fans stick with this very long interview that got quite geeky.

. Fedor has not won even one title at 9ball or 10ball in 2025. It's a very strange time to try to label him the best of all time. For the true greats, nothing but titles will ever suffice, and Fedor is a true great. He will likely be in the GOAT discussion one day, but he is not in it yet.

While Filler has won several giant field events in rotation pool this year, even he cannot logically be compared to Yapp right now, who has done the almost unfathomable in winning three straight WNT majors. Yapp, who also won the International 9ball in November, is the best right now and, until further notice, Josh and Fedor are chasing.

It's a fun time to be watching pro pool, and yes, there is a dominant player in the game right now. His name is Yapp. Josh and Fedor know it, too. Someone should tell Rogan.

They talked about how good Yapp is and his three big title wins. Both acknowledged Yapp is now the best player in the world right now.
 
Oh, he sure does, sjm. Rogan was just being provocative about Gorst being the greatest ever. So I won’t bother to explain his, ah, reasoning. He later said he thought SVB was probably the greatest ever.

The guy is a total pool nerd. It was obvious he watched the WPC, Florida Open and U.S. Open. Among the various players he brought up were Reyes, Soufi, Souquet, Parica, Bustamante, Willie Hoppe, the Ko brothers, Biado, Filler, Yapp, Feijin. Said Ko Ping Ching is his favorite player and waxed on about little Ko’s "perfect" U.S. Open win.

Threw in some talk about Rony O’Sullivan too. Doubt most Rogan fans stick with this very long interview that got quite geeky.



They talked about how good Yapp is and his three big title wins. Both acknowledged Yapp is now the best player in the world right now.
Thanks. Well said. Still, put me on the list of those who believe that Fedor, a generational talent, has a chance to be the best ever. It's more than possible that his resume of titles will blow our minds one day. Wishing him well.
 
I just hope Trump won't pick on Gorst after seeing this, since Joe R had his falling out on Nat news with DT.
 
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9 Ball break: :ninja:

I've never really mentioned it before because I didn't think it was something unique. I'd guess anyone who's toyed with the break has done it. You can tune your break and find good breaks by finding aim points in the rack. You can aim at balls, the spaces between balls(half ball hit), or fractions of most balls in the rack while hitting the 1B. You can use different spins to do different things like parking the CB or going to 1 or 2 rails for shape or to re-smash the rack. The rear ball, the next to the rear two balls, or the space in between the 9 and a neighboring ball can all produce. It depends on your goals for the CB and what you wish to accomplish. The 1B is more wired into the side with 9 on the spot, but it can be done most of the time with 9 on the spot too.

If you're doing a cut break, from anywhere from the rail to about 1/2 diamond out you can pretty much shoot for the third diamond on the end rail with some low right. This will park the CB about a foot from the 1B, make the wing, and a big chance to make the 1B in the side. Your goal is 1B in the side, which lets you really tune how you are breaking. Once you get so you can make the 1B in the side 4/5 times you know you are breaking consistently. While practicing do this with a template for consistency. Even if you switch to a wood rack, this break still works well... but it's harder to make the 1B in the side, especially if there is any space in the second row (row behind the 1B).

I mention this gap between the second row balls because if you're playing in league this second row space is almost always there and it can be hard to freeze those balls if the cloth is old and has a "memory." I feel that this gap is more common on tables where 8B is played a lot. I think the second row balls try to "squeeze out" more on 8B both due to more rack mass and second ball breaks being used. The result is the cloth is crushed outwards, making the second row cloth divots more oblong, pointing at the side rails. The balls want to roll out and not stay frozen as they would with a single divot.

This sounds silly but if you've ever replaced cloth on a table, there will be fine lines on the slate where you can see the track lines of a break and where the balls go. If you play more 9B, you can still see faint lines where the 8 ball break tracks. I suggest taking a reference picture if you want to study.

In 9B if any gap exists between the second row, like if you could fit a cigarette rolling paper in there, you're much better off breaking closer to where the pro break box is, or at least 1 diamond off the rail. Find the exact diamond line and put either of the CB's edge on that line. If on an unfamiliar table, break hard because a wing ball isn't guaranteed if that gap is in the second row.
Great Info
 
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