Fedor Gorst vs Jeff de Luna 10-ball, race to 100 is coming soon...

Strong finish for de Luna. As someone who bet on Gorst, my main concern was whether or not this long race would eventually take its toll on him.
 
They called the Philippines for reinforcements. Dennis will be here next week to take on all comers. ;)
 
They called the Philippines for reinforcements. Dennis will be here next week to take on all comers. ;)
I have much respect for Dennis, but it is no secret that his 10 ball break has kept him from doing well in long 10 ball gambling matches. When he played SVB he lost 120-85 or something. SVB was running 40-45% from the break. Dennis just couldn't generate that many opportunities.

Now, things are changing. SVB's break is almost out of date. With the template racks and polished balls the top players now seem to be breaking in the 16-18mph range much of the time. They are not only playing to make balls and control the one, but play open layouts and pattern racks. It's starting to look just silly. In this match here Jeff DeLuna, who has one of the biggest breaks on the planet, is breaking soft. So is Fedor.

It could be this is the window Dennis has been waiting for, for the break to turn into a skill shot at softer speeds. When he played SVB 9 ball a few months ago the 9 on the spot cut break kept him very live, and although he was fortunate for SVB to give him opportunities to get back in the match there is no doubt he held his own on the breaking side of things. If the migration to the soft 10 ball break combined with some more hard work on Dennis's part has closed the breaking gap then he can beat anyone in the world.

All that said, I KNOW Fedor can run out 45% of the time, and until I see that from Dennis I can't really bet on him in 10 ball against guys that have that type of proven breaking success.

I don't think it's fair for a great like him to be held down over a trick shot so I'm hoping he has it figured out. I'll look forward to sweating it for sure!
 
I have much respect for Dennis, but it is no secret that his 10 ball break has kept him from doing well in long 10 ball gambling matches. When he played SVB he lost 120-85 or something. SVB was running 40-45% from the break. Dennis just couldn't generate that many opportunities.

Now, things are changing. SVB's break is almost out of date. With the template racks and polished balls the top players now seem to be breaking in the 16-18mph range much of the time. They are not only playing to make balls and control the one, but play open layouts and pattern racks. It's starting to look just silly. In this match here Jeff DeLuna, who has one of the biggest breaks on the planet, is breaking soft. So is Fedor.

It could be this is the window Dennis has been waiting for, for the break to turn into a skill shot at softer speeds. When he played SVB 9 ball a few months ago the 9 on the spot cut break kept him very live, and although he was fortunate for SVB to give him opportunities to get back in the match there is no doubt he held his own on the breaking side of things. If the migration to the soft 10 ball break combined with some more hard work on Dennis's part has closed the breaking gap then he can beat anyone in the world.

All that said, I KNOW Fedor can run out 45% of the time, and until I see that from Dennis I can't really bet on him in 10 ball against guys that have that type of proven breaking success.

I don't think it's fair for a great like him to be held down over a trick shot so I'm hoping he has it figured out. I'll look forward to sweating it for sure!
DO won last time him and SVB played.
 
DO won last time him and SVB played.
Yes. My point was that when they played 9 on the spot 9 ball it turned the break into a skill shot and Dennis held his own in the breaking department. He didn't have to win that set but he broke as well as SVB overall and that gave him the chances he needed to win.

When Dennis played SVB 10 ball he had no chance.

I won't repeat the rest of my post but it all comes down to if the break is a skill shot or a hard exploding shot. Maybe 10 ball is evolving to a skill shot and Dennis has a chance, but he has to show me first.
 
After day 2 the score is 70 - 54 Fedor. So Fedor won on both days and it seems like quite a mission to come back on day 3 for Jeff.
 
DeLuna is really impressing me. He fell behind by a 13 or more on day one and closed the gap to end up just down 9 (35-26).

Day two he got down 16 racks at 48-32. He finished down 16 racks at 70-54.

This means after a day and a half of punishment he hung even with Fedor for the last 44 racks of 10 ball.

It would be a tall order to come back, but he is determined not to flinch. He is breaking well and shooting super strong. Fedor needs to hold steady. He's our world champion, I don't see him fumbling, but Jeff is waiting for the door to crack open. We saw how quick Dennis came back on SVB. Great match!
 
DeLuna is really impressing me. He fell behind by a 13 or more on day one and closed the gap to end up just down 9 (35-26).

Day two he got down 16 racks at 48-32. He finished down 16 racks at 70-54.

This means after a day and a half of punishment he hung even with Fedor for the last 44 racks of 10 ball.

It would be a tall order to come back, but he is determined not to flinch. He is breaking well and shooting super strong. Fedor needs to hold steady. He's our world champion, I don't see him fumbling, but Jeff is waiting for the door to crack open. We saw how quick Dennis came back on SVB. Great match!
I've said it for about three years now. Gorst is the world's straightest shooter. His break is very solid, too. My only knock is that he doesn't fare very well in the racks that have to be fought for, and that's the only thing holding him back from being a top ten in the world (in my estimation, that's JL Chang, Filler, SVB, Shaw, Orcullo, Little Ko, Zheng, Raga, Wu Jiaqing, Biado). His defense, kicking and tactical conceptualization are all well below those of the top few, and if he tidies it up, admittedly a daunting and time-consuming task, he might contend for #1 in the world down the road. Fedor is a rare and special talent.

If DeLuna comes back, I doubt it will be because he outshoots Fedor, but if he can keep his offensive execution at a similar level to that of Fedor and can exploit his advantage in racks that come down to grinding, he can tighten things up. I'm guessing he's dug too deep a hole to win this, but I've been wrong before when it comes to such predictions.
 
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tidbits:

- Gorst broke dry on 9 of 34 breaks on Day 1. He had no dry breaks (out of 35) on Day 2.​
- Neither player has fouled on the break yet.​
- Gorst has fouled 4 times, with de Luna running out on his next inning after 2 of those 4 fouls. De Luna has fouled 16 times, with Gorst running out on his next inning after 13 of those 16 fouls.​
- Day 1 didn't end until after 2 am local time; Day 2 didn't end until almost 4 am local time. This is absurd.​
 
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