Ferrule Instalation

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MJ_Ro

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Hi.

I recently bought a small repair lathe for doing mostly ferrule/tips. But i just run into a little problem , probably because of my inexperience.
I work mostly on house cues and as you can imagine most of the ferrules are in poor shape , when i install tips i have to do the final cuts with a blade/knife , but sometimes i have to change a ferrule and i come up against mostly bad shafts wich are not perfectly round . When i try to install a ferrule on that kind of shaft the knife on the lathe cuts straight, but because the shaft is not perfectly round it doesn't cut perfect, sometimes it takes more from one side then the other.
I will try to get some pics if i can, i don't own a camera, i'll try with my phone.


Excuse my english, is not my native language.

Thanks.
 
WOW...a blast from the past! house cues are not centered as well as other cues. the shaft end could be warped a little but what is more common is that the tenon is not centered with the rest of the cue. you could re-do the tenon but its much simpler to cut close to the diameter than sand down rest. hope this helps.
 
I have run into plenty of not so straight cues. You shouldnt have too much of a problem as long as you chuck up as close as possible to the headstock. Dont use a steadyrest or any other chuck to do the repair.

I just did a ferrule yesterday that had a serious wobble in the middle but it came out great as long as i put it as close to the headstock as possible
 
MJ_Ro said:
Hi.

I recently bought a small repair lathe for doing mostly ferrule/tips. But i just run into a little problem , probably because of my inexperience.
I work mostly on house cues and as you can imagine most of the ferrules are in poor shape , when i install tips i have to do the final cuts with a blade/knife , but sometimes i have to change a ferrule and i come up against mostly bad shafts wich are not perfectly round . When i try to install a ferrule on that kind of shaft the knife on the lathe cuts straight, but because the shaft is not perfectly round it doesn't cut perfect, sometimes it takes more from one side then the other.
I will try to get some pics if i can, i don't own a camera, i'll try with my phone.


Excuse my english, is not my native language.

Thanks.
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I understand what you are saying, your English is fine. You have to make sure that the ferrule end of the shaft is spinning true before you make a cut. If the ferrule end of the cue is warped, you still shim the jaws of your chuck so that the ferrule runs true. This can be done by wrapping some masking tape around the shaft near the ferrule, and by using that to Chuck up on. Generally by adding a little more tape on one side than the other you can make the Ferrule and tip roll true before you turn down the ferrule.

Hope this helps
 
hey nice idea manwon, could have used that a few years ago. i didn't spend to much time trying to get a house cue to be perfect though. i used to do tons of them for the amusement vendors so the quicker the better and most of them were so bad anyway-who cared
 
avscue said:
hey nice idea manwon, could have used that a few years ago. i didn't spend to much time trying to get a house cue to be perfect though. i used to do tons of them for the amusement vendors so the quicker the better and most of them were so bad anyway-who cared
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This method also will work when you are trying to true up the points of cues using a router. The most important thing to remember is to make very thin / small cuts until you get the points even.

Take care
 
I shim with sales receipts. They are thinner and allow for very fine adjustments. On the negative side, they don't have adhesive, so you have to wet them to get them to stick.
 
@Manwon : you are saying that instead of a collet to hold down the shaft in the chuck i should use masking tape.

I would try also to clamp the shaft as close to the ferrule as i can. On house cues it feels you are doing more work then it should.

Thanks.
 
manwon said:
I understand what you are saying, your English is fine. You have to make sure that the ferrule end of the shaft is spinning true before you make a cut. If the ferrule end of the cue is warped, you still shim the jaws of your chuck so that the ferrule runs true. This can be done by wrapping some masking tape around the shaft near the ferrule, and by using that to Chuck up on. Generally by adding a little more tape on one side than the other you can make the Ferrule and tip roll true before you turn down the ferrule.

Hope this helps
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+1
I use everything from rolling papers to playing cards
 
Is there any acurate way to test if the ferrule is spinning true?. Is it better to cut from the shaft part of the ferrule or from the tip side?

Thank you for tips. I am trying to get better at this.
 
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