Ferrule pliers?

jazznpool

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I'd like to modify a small pair of pliers to snug threaded ferrules on a shaft. My plan is to epoxy strips of cowhide onto the round part of the jaws. I was wondering if anyone here has found a particular brand/type of specialty pliers suitable for this task? Also, does anyone have a pair of the small Uni-Lock Vise-Grip pliers they'd like to sell? They work nicely for threaded on ferrules but I haven't seen them for sale anywhere. Thanks.

Martin
 
Sounds like a plan. I take a piece of thick leather, and usually just wrap It around the ferrule, then Grab It with the pliers. After a while the teeth on the pliers wear into the leather, but I have a box of thicker leather, so I just cut a new piece to use when that happens. A set of non marring pliers just for ferrules would be nice though.:) It's even possible that maybe be there's something used for some other field that may be well suited.

Greg
 
I'm confused. I never allow the pliers to dig down that deep and still get the ferrule plenty snug. The marring gets cut away when sizing the ferrule.

What makes the teeth of your pliers dig so deep?

Gene
 
Cuedog said:
I'm confused. I never allow the pliers to dig down that deep and still get the ferrule plenty snug. The marring gets cut away when sizing the ferrule.

What makes the teeth of your pliers dig so deep?

Gene
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Sometimes I don't worry about It either Gene. Depends on what pair I'm using at the time, Ferrule type, how over sized It is, those sort of things. It's not much more effort for me to use leather, so sometimes I do It for a hair of extra precaution I suppose. I don't use any more clamping pressure then needed to snug It up. The pair of Pliers I have hanging closest to Me are brand new though, and haven't been grinded on old bolts & things over the years like My others, so still Kind of sharp, they cut through the leather pretty easily, but grip well without clamping down as hard.

Greg
 
I ground off the teeth and use leather super glued onto the pliers.
 
ferrule pliers

In Marine Corps aviation, aircraft electricians use a pair of pliers known as "cannon plug pliers". These pliers have teflon jaws. I would think you may find these where ever speciality tools for the aviation industry are sold.

Jim Griffin
 
jazznpool said:
I'd like to modify a small pair of pliers to snug threaded ferrules on a shaft. My plan is to epoxy strips of cowhide onto the round part of the jaws. I was wondering if anyone here has found a particular brand/type of specialty pliers suitable for this task? Also, does anyone have a pair of the small Uni-Lock Vise-Grip pliers they'd like to sell? They work nicely for threaded on ferrules but I haven't seen them for sale anywhere. Thanks.

Martin
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Lee Valley makes a pair of soft jaw pliers. I have a set that I use on occasion.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32197&cat=1,43456,43400&ap=1
 
jazznpool said:
I'd like to modify a small pair of pliers to snug threaded ferrules on a shaft. My plan is to epoxy strips of cowhide onto the round part of the jaws. I was wondering if anyone here has found a particular brand/type of specialty pliers suitable for this task? Also, does anyone have a pair of the small Uni-Lock Vise-Grip pliers they'd like to sell? They work nicely for threaded on ferrules but I haven't seen them for sale anywhere. Thanks.

Martin
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If you are using your leather method, I would suggest an "alligator" grip type pliers similar to these. These are Snap-on brand, but I am sure they can be found elsewhere. Otherwise I like the soft jaw pliers that Mase recommends.

Regards,
Craig

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Knipex is the company. Look for some of their pliers. I belive the Snap-On pliers were designed by Knipex.
 
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. Have a nice holiday

Martin!
 
Pliers, don't need them. If you need pliers to tighten the furrules your most likey twisting the threaded tennon. Twisting the tennon, past it's normal state is wrong. I use my hand and fingers to tighten it up. Think about it? If you use any type of tool, your putting a twist on the tennon, plus stretching it long ways. If your ferrule won't screw on by hand and fingers, it's not clean or not bored large enough. I never twist any part of the cue, [or cue parts], to put them under pressure. Just snug them up, and with a good fit and good glue, your done. No need to, if you make good fits, through out the cue.

blud
 
blud said:
Pliers, don't need them. If you need pliers to tighten the furrules your most likey twisting the threaded tennon. Twisting the tennon, past it's normal state is wrong. I use my hand and fingers to tighten it up. Think about it? If you use any type of tool, your putting a twist on the tennon, plus stretching it long ways. If your ferrule won't screw on by hand and fingers, it's not clean or not bored large enough. I never twist any part of the cue, [or cue parts], to put them under pressure. Just snug them up, and with a good fit and good glue, your done. No need to, if you make good fits, through out the cue.

blud
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I too was amazed by this thread. If you need pliers to hold the ferrule then you are stressing/twisting the tenon. I just grab the ferrule with my fingers...never needed pliers. Glad to hear I'm not the only one.:)
 
I've been taught to snug threaded ferrules on, not apply massive force. Many of the highest regarded cuemakers thread their ferrules on. You guys are smart enough to know that. Cues play just fine with threaded ferrules. Of course, if you slip on your ferrules, which is just fine (for you) pliers are certainly not needed!

Respectfully,

Martin

Varney Cues said:
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I too was amazed by this thread. If you need pliers to hold the ferrule then you are stressing/twisting the tenon. I just grab the ferrule with my fingers...never needed pliers. Glad to hear I'm not the only one.:)
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jazznpool said:
I've been taught to snug threaded ferrules on, not apply massive force. Many of the highest regarded cuemakers thread their ferrules on. You guys are smart enough to know that. Cues play just fine with threaded ferrules. Of course, if you slip on your ferrules, which is just fine (for you) pliers are certainly not needed!

Respectfully,

Martin[/QUOTE

I think you missed the point here. He is not saying that he doesn't thread his ferrules on but that they don't believe it is necessary or proper to have to use enough force that pliers need to be used to tighten a ferrule onto the tenon.

Dick
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I think you missed the point here. He is not saying that he doesn't thread his ferrules on but that they don't believe it is necessary or proper to have to use enough force that pliers need to be used to tighten a ferrule onto the tenon.

Dick[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Thank you Dick. I use capped & threaded ferrules as well as slip on....depends on the "hit" my customer prefers. The ferrule & tenon are both threaded 5/16-18 so they screw together with minimal effort. Finger tight is all thats needed to flush them correctly.
 
right on Dick,
some have a tough time understanding how I explain things. Sorry for that. Point is, need no pliers, or straps, or whatevers to tighten any part of the cue. Just your hands, good glue and a little common sence. I sincerly hope some gain a little knowledge from this, subject matter....
blud
 
blud said:
right on Dick,
some have a tough time understanding how I explain things. Sorry for that. Point is, need no pliers, or straps, or whatevers to tighten any part of the cue. Just your hands, good glue and a little common sence. I sincerly hope some gain a little knowledge from this, subject matter....
blud
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Blud
Nice to see you posting again.
 
hi Jack, good to be back. Hope your doing well?
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blud
 
The decision to use pliers is completely up to the individual.

It is my belief that if you are experiencing excess gouging with the teeth of the pliers, that you are running your lathe at unnecessary speeds. If you are looking to install the ferrule quickly, that can still be accomplished at a slow speed giving you enough time to remove the pliers once reaching the end of your threads. All scratches at that point, will be shallow enough that they will be removed during the sizing process and won't effect the finished product.

No need to torque it.

Gene
 
cannon plug pliers

I use these at work I think they will work well for your intended purpose, these are known as Cannon Plug pliers..
 
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