Filipino Boycott

Hail Mary Shot said:
I must say that I'm totally saddened by what is happening in Philippine Pool. what is evident is there is a power struggle between 2 parties. I'm quite familiar with traditional Philippine Politics and it has been a problem for the longest time that an organization like the BSCP (though duly authorized by the WPA to conduct qualifying events for international championships) would do everything by legal or illegal (do some manipulations to make it appear legal) inorder to shut down an opposing organization such as the BMPAP. this is more of a vendetta slugfest. personalism rather than professionalism. it doesn't matter if the sport gets hurt as long as they get what they want or show who's boss.

I would only hope that a commission in sports would butt in and abolish the BSCP for good.

lemme remind you that I have nothing against the BSCP but got something to say about the officials who are inducted in that organization. some of the names who are in there are long-term politicians and have some personal connections within the government. these certain personalities don't even know an ounce about Philippine sports nor pool but have distinguished roles as successors of notable families of politicians. it would only take a miracle for these people to step down. even a sex or money laundering scandal couldn't/wouldn't budge these people to do the right thing of resigning. there is just too much money in politics that it thickens their skin.

call it a conspiracy or mutinee, but there is a reason why the crew of a ship would do such a thing. loss of confidence or belief in the organization. for whatever causes such loss of confidence or belief came from, in general , it is not a good one.

the most disturbing thing is that notable and well-known and respected players are among these mutineers. call it as loyalty to one organization. but why such loyalty? and why is it difficult for them to respect the BSCP (eventhough it is an authorized entity)?

for whatever argument an organization presents, one thing must always be top priority: Philippine Pool and it's players must be served and protected and not the organization's well-being. that is the role why an organization is formed. to serve and not to be served.
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Exactly! These very same players, as I've mentioned, bring SRO audience in events all over the world. Andddddd......a high percentage of the adience are Overseas Filipino Workers. The number one export of the Philippines is......... Manpower.

We, the BMPAP, feel that the Filipino Poolplayer has been exploited enough already. It is time to end this exploitation from dictators. The rest of the Philippines have done something about the 23 years of Martial Law. Why did pool lag behind?

The Philippine Pool situation is very different from any other country's. Does any other country's government bestow its highest achievement award to a poolplayer (Lakandula Award)? Or a Senate that recognizes its poolplayers achievement and the pride they bring to its people? Any other country have a poolplayer that was recognized as being one of the most influential people in the region (Asia)? Any other country have a national pool organization disrespect such highly-recognized and revered poolplayers as Efren, Django, Ronnie and Alex like BSCP/RAYA did with their text messages, manufactured charges and rigged tournament qualifiers? Only in the Philippines! LOL!!!

Next question that I anticipate is about the word "exploited"? Creating a pool event is no different than creating a movie. With movies, no Stars no producers no matter how good the script and production crew is (director, etc). In pool here in the Philippines, no Efren, Django, Alex, Dennis, LeeVan, Ronnie, Roberto, Gandy, Warren, etc. means no SPONSORS!

That is the reason for all the whining from BSCP/RAYA and its affiliates. Without the above players there won't be any M-O-N-E-Y. So BSCP/RAYA has to device ways to twist these players arms! End of that era guys!
 
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Again I say this. The BMPAP is not trying to topple the BSCP. We want them to do their job as an NSA. They are supposed to develop the grassroots and NOMINATE poolplayers to represent the country to the Asian Games, Southeast Asian Games and the World Pool Championship for Juniors and Girls period. They get to nominate such by holding a qualifying tournament then preparing these representatives through training funded by the government. They have no business sticking their noses into PROFESSIONAL Pool which is the jurisdiction (Presidential Decree 871) of the Games and Amusement Board of the Office of the President of the Philippines.
BSCP is one of the smallest NSA in this country which doesn't even have the manpower to do the above responsibilities. RAYA has the manpower and that's why Mr. Ernie Fajardo of BSCP can't let Mr. Yen Makabenta go. Other directors of BSCP already TOLD Ernie and Yen to cease using BSCP in RAYA's events. So there! Checkout www.bscpweb.com, it used to be filled with info about events done by RAYA or BSCP/RAYA. It's empty now! Do you still need to ask why? Answer: On-going Government investigation and the other BSCP Directors don't want repercussion brought about by this dynamic duo's, Ernie and Yen, own doing with the help of Tony Baranda, Sebastian Chua, JP Fenix, Willie "hoops" Aldeguer, Sol Gueco, Jun Diokno, Charly, etc!

The 10 Million question was also initiated by their own Treasurer, Sebastian Chua, because the balance that the bankbook that he was holding only reflected Php86,000.00, when PSC Comissioner Butch Ramirez said to a reporter that PSC gave 10M to BSCP, but was too chicken to ask Yen. So Perry and I asked and the reply we got were maliscious text messages. That's how they ultimately lost our support.
 
i do hope that the senate intervention on the case (philippine pool) resolve the conflict... :eek:

did WPA impossed sanctions on the ITP players, was it "sanctions" implemented at all?
hmnnn...
 
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Alex libel lawsuit against BSCP Chairman and President

Alex Pagulayan filed with the Pasig City RTC libel charges against Florentino "Yen" Makabenta and Ernesto Fajardo this afternoon. This was brought about by the 'Sharking" accusation charged by the BSCP after Alex's Guinness 9BT match against Ibrahim Bin Amir. This "sharking" charge was subsequently used by the BSCP as the reason from banning Alex as Philippine representative to the next leg of the Guinness 9Ball Tour.

Check the local Dailies tomorrow for the full story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f36A8fM9N1w

Here's evidence that the BMPAP players' complaints against the BSCP are for real. More lawsuits to come and we're serious as a heart attack that our players won't be participating in any BSCP/RAYA event. BTW, as a consequence of these publisized "sharking" charge, Alex lost a Php3M endorsement deal!
 
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Sharking

I watched the video, and Alex was in no way sharking. His were expressions of exhilaration and elation, but that is all.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, other than the great filipino pool champions. I just have trouble following the money trail here.

So BSCP/Raya got ten million pesos from the Philippine government to produce the WPC in 2006 and 2007. Do I have that part right? At the prevailing rate of 50p to a dollar in 2006, that would be $200,000. Okay so far? My understanding is that it cost $1,000,000 in producers fees paid to Matchroom to host this event. Am I close here? And the prize money paid out was another $400,000. I know that number is right.

So if in fact the BSCP did get $200,000 from the government to produce this event, where did the rest of the money come from? That 200K does not begin to pay for all their expenses in bringing the WPC to Manila. Even if the Philippine government paid the one million dollar fee to Matchroom, the BSCP still had to come up another $200,000 to make the prize fund complete. So it is hard for me to understand how they took advantage of anyone here. Maybe I'm missing something. I'd like to know. The fact that the BSCP/Raya successfully produced TWO WPC in Manila is pretty impressive. Why they shouldn't be allowed or stopped from producing a third WPC has never been fully explained to me.

I do agree that the handling of the Alex "incident" was grossly unfair, and speaks of some bias against Alex. And the BMPAP should be recognized for what they do to support the Philippine pro players. No question that the top Philippine pros drive the "box office" at events they participate in. So special consideration should be given them by the producers of these events, if they are smart. But on the other hand, these top pros should be allowed to participate in major events, particularly on their own soil. Why boycott a major pro pool tournament right in your own backyard? Unless they are being used as pawns in some kind of power struggle. Once again the players seem to be the losers here. Like Jerry, I think the two sides need to bury the hatchet and sit down and work this out for the good of all parties.

I have had good personal dealings with people on both sides of this issue, and I refuse to take sides either way. I would be quite willing to "moderate' a meeting between them to see if anything can be worked out. My observation is that one side brought two huge events (2006-7 WPC) to the Philippines and should be acknowledged for accomplishing that. And the other side has supported Philippine pros for many years and helped them become international stars. And they should be acknowledged for that. So both sides have done something that bettered the life of Philippine pool players.

My experience has been that by working together more can be accomplished than by working separately. The political in-fighting that is going on is detrimental to the Philippine pool scene in general. This bothers me personally because I happen to love the great events that have been held there, and I love the great players that the Philippines has produced. I would like to see more great tournaments in the Philippines featuring ALL their star players. Let's see how we can accomplish this. PLEASE!
 
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On AzBilliards Main Page, there's a brand-new article entitled "Pagulayan Sues Makabenta, Fajardo." :eek:

When I click the link, NOTHING HAPPENS! :(

I want to read all about it. NOW! :angry:

Hopefully, it will become available soon. :wink:

One thing for sure, when the powers-that-be told Alex he could not compete on the tour -- AT THE LAST MINUTE -- he had already incurred travel expenses, making his flight reservations ahead of time.

I know this topic about Alex has been discussed before on this forum, but I think Alex Pagulayan was WRONGED. He deserves a little jelly roll from somebody. JMHO, FWIW! :)

JAM
 
Maybe we should post Verna's e-mail to Jerry here. It details how the BSCP/RAYA tandem uses their percieved power to control the players.

Secondly, the BSCP can naturally approach government but if a private entity is involved in a project this private entity had better be selected through a bidding process. So, were the government offices approached by Yen the BSCP Chairman? Of course. Did these government budget for sports go throught he proper channels to reach the hands of Yen the RAYA SPORTS President? Well, according to Ernie Fajardo, BSCP President and during the Senate Hearing, it didn't! Did these funds go through the Philippine Sports Commission (the Gov sports Agency that controls the Government sports budget)? No, according to PSC Chairman because he denied that way back when the Php 10M was first questioned. Funds coming from the PSC too cannot be used as prize money. Can you imagine the uproar from the other NSAs if they find out about this? BTW the total amount that came from the government that was deducted from the National Sports Budget was 30M Pesos. 10M from PAGCOR and 20M from the Dept of Tourism.

Truth is, Perry witnessed the whole Alex issue unfold, Alex requested that he be paid an "appearance fee" to join Makabenta's private production "The Pool Showdown". Yen got upset and said that Alex will never be able to play in any of their,BSCP/RAYA, events. They looked for a way to justify his exclusion from the Guinness Tour of which they found and used the so called "Monkey-duey Moves".

That my friend is how it all started and immediately went downhill after series of "show of Power" from the BSCP/RAYA tandem
 
JAM said:
On AzBilliards Main Page, there's a brand-new article entitled "Pagulayan Sues Makabenta, Fajardo." :eek:

When I click the link, NOTHING HAPPENS! :(

I want to read all about it. NOW! :angry:

Hopefully, it will become available soon. :wink:

One thing for sure, when the powers-that-be told Alex he could not compete on the tour -- AT THE LAST MINUTE -- he had already incurred travel expenses, making his flight reservations ahead of time.

I know this topic about Alex has been discussed before on this forum, but I think Alex Pagulayan was WRONGED. He deserves a little jelly roll from somebody. JMHO, FWIW! :)

JAM
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I was with Alex at the lawyer's office then at the courthouse to file the lawsuit this afternoon. And so were Efren, Django, Putch, Perry, etc.

The travel expenses is peanuts compared to the endorsement deal that soured because of the extensively publisized "BSCP banning".

I remember asking everybody to keep their cool and sit down to discuss the situation. It never happened and this is the product of the arrogance.
 
jay helfert said:
I don't have a dog in this fight, other than the great filipino pool champions. I just have trouble following the money trail here.

So BSCP/Raya got ten million pesos from the Philippine government to produce the WPC in 2006 and 2007. Do I have that part right? At the prevailing rate of 50p to a dollar in 2006, that would be $200,000. Okay so far? My understanding is that it cost $1,000,000 in producers fees paid to Matchroom to host this event. Am I close here? And the prize money paid out was another $400,000. I know that number is right.

So if in fact the BSCP did get $200,000 from the government to produce this event, where did the rest of the money come from? That 200K does not begin to pay for all their expenses in bringing the WPC to Manila. Even if the Philippine government paid the one million dollar fee to Matchroom, the BSCP still had to come up another $200,000 to make the prize fund complete. So it is hard for me to understand how they took advantage of anyone here. Maybe I'm missing something. I'd like to know. The fact that the BSCP/Raya successfully produced TWO WPC in Manila is pretty impressive. Why they shouldn't be allowed or stopped from producing a third WPC has never been fully explained to me.

I do agree that the handling of the Alex "incident" was grossly unfair, and speaks of some bias against Alex. And the BMPAP should be recognized for what they do to support the Philippine pro players. No question that the top Philippine pros drive the "box office" at events they participate in. So special consideration should be given them by the producers of these events, if they are smart. But on the other hand, these top pros should be allowed to participate in major events, particularly on their own soil. Why boycott a major pro pool tournament right in your own backyard? Unless they are being used as pawns in some kind of power struggle. Once again the players seem to be the losers here. Like Jerry, I think the two sides need to bury the hatchet and sit down and work this out for the good of all parties.

I have had good personal dealings with people on both sides of this issue, and I refuse to take sides either way. I would be quite willing to "moderate' a meeting between them to see if anything can be worked out. My observation is that one side brought two huge events (2006-7 WPC) to the Philippines and should be acknowledged for accomplishing that. And the other side has supported Philippine pros for many years and helped them become international stars. And they should be acknowledged for that. So both sides have done something that bettered the life of Philippine pool players.

My experience has been that by working together more can be accomplished than by working separately. The political in-fighting that is going on is detrimental to the Philippine pool scene in general. This bothers me personally because I happen to love the great events that have been held there, and I love the great players that the Philippines has produced. I would like to see more great tournaments in the Philippines featuring ALL their star players. Let's see how we can accomplish this. PLEASE!
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I'm very happy with your optimism Jay. but I believe such mediation was done on February this year. when both parties come to terms with regards to qualifying. then the so-called manipulation occured when a certain personality tried to change the rules during a qualifying event while the tourney was in it's final phase of determining the qualifiers (players already locked their place after several matches). I guess one party was not that seriously cooperative about the signed and vocal agreement. it must really suck that you cant have your way and lose your bid that you need to fix something up inorder to justify that you deserve it. it's like someone winning the lottery then suddenly oooopppssss....we made a mistake, there was a computer glitch. blah blah.

as far as producing the WPC event is concerned, I don't believe that Raya or the BSCP would cater such event if they would be losing money or taking funds out of their personal pockets. they won't push for a 3rd event. it is highly illogical. I'm sure that they were able to get some funding elsewhere (aside from the $200,000), where the Senate is investigating. could it be that someone is embezzling public funds? worse is someone would embezzle private funds as well. aside from money garnered from embezzlement, sponsors, endorsements and ads are a big source of income or money generation. you maybe wondering how the hell such company as Yahoo and Google got to be so rich just for being search engines. the answer is sponsorship. just imagine Efren alone getting paid 5/10 million pesos for endorsing a product, what more could the producer get from a big event such as the WPC. is money lost or money garnered (secretly) ? someone here is playing poker betting on someone else's money and could be secretly picking up the earnings while the bosses aren't looking. hmmmmmm.....
 
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JAM said:
LOL! :grin:

You're right about one thing, politics for some pool entities is becoming a nightmare that just keeps getting worse and worse.

I've given up on pool politics in the U.S., mainly because there's no gold, for lack of a better word, at the end of the rainbow. I've given pool my all, whatever I have to offer, for the love of the game, and I still enjoy following the regional tournament trail and reading about all the great pool events around the world. :smiling-heart:

Philippines, however, is a hot spot for pool. The Filipino people celebrate pool and have respect for the pool champions and legends of the game, unlike here. In the U.S., pool doesn't enjoy this type of notoriety.

I am a little saddened and taken aback to see political turmoil happening in Philippines, but knowing how great the spirit is of the Filipino people, I think they will get through it.

The new kid on the block, though, is the Middle East. They got the money, and the attention of the WPA. :wink:

JAM
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WPA is pushing billiards on regions that have no tradition of it. It's one of their responsibilities for being an Olympic representative. I think their next target will be the African continent.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
IBP is the owner of the Eurotour - EPBF sanctions the Eurotour.

President of IBP, a private company based in Holland, is vice-president in EPBF. Vise-president in IBP is President in EPBF, and secretary of the WPA.

So, if the Eurotour makes profit, does the money go back to European pool, or it's owner? The owners of IBP would like to make profit, but at the same time the board of EPBF would like to make money so they could do more for pool in Europe. But who get's the money?

I don't like when people have so many hats to wear...

It's the same with Yen Makabenta and the 10 million pesos he got in sponsorship from the Government.

RAYA Sports got the 10 million pesos, but when Yen was talking to the government which hat did he use?

Would the government still give 10 million pesos to Yen if they knew it was a private company that would receive the money? Did they believe that Yen received the money on behalf of a governing body of a very popular sport? Which Yen were the government talking to, the Raya-Yen or the BSCP-Yen?

I smell a rat
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That is what we call a "conflict of interest." It doesn't matter if it was 1 Peso from the goverment, who was he representing?
 
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the last thing that we dont want to see is someone using the pool sport as a way of embezzling money. does this scenario sounds familiar?
 
IMHO, politics has got NO place in pool at all, politics should be kept in gov't offices, etc, so that the pool players and the TD's can get on with enjoying the sport without Politicians and/or corporate sponsors calling the shots of who can/can't play in a tournament.

The reason I say this is because when politics becomes involved in any sport, it creates more problems and heartache than any participant or TD wants to be bothered with, especially where money is concerned.

Politics only takes away the enjoyment of competitive pool at any level, which is both saddening and frustrating at the best of times.

As far as I'm concerned, ALL players should be permitted to shoot in ANY event they wish too, so long as they are willing to put up their entrance fee and are happy to abide by tournament rules, and it shouldn't matter about which "Governing Body" they are affiliated with, if they've got the entrance fee, their own cues, and are willing to play, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to enter :)

Whilst there are restrictions being placed on players from competeing in any event(s), there will always be disagreements, and whilst there are disagreements, pool will continue to suffer as a professional sport.

JMHO

Willie
 
jay helfert said:
I don't have a dog in this fight, other than the great filipino pool champions. I just have trouble following the money trail here.

So BSCP/Raya got ten million pesos from the Philippine government to produce the WPC in 2006 and 2007. Do I have that part right? At the prevailing rate of 50p to a dollar in 2006, that would be $200,000. Okay so far? My understanding is that it cost $1,000,000 in producers fees paid to Matchroom to host this event. Am I close here? And the prize money paid out was another $400,000. I know that number is right.

So if in fact the BSCP did get $200,000 from the government to produce this event, where did the rest of the money come from? That 200K does not begin to pay for all their expenses in bringing the WPC to Manila. Even if the Philippine government paid the one million dollar fee to Matchroom, the BSCP still had to come up another $200,000 to make the prize fund complete. So it is hard for me to understand how they took advantage of anyone here. Maybe I'm missing something. I'd like to know. The fact that the BSCP/Raya successfully produced TWO WPC in Manila is pretty impressive. Why they shouldn't be allowed or stopped from producing a third WPC has never been fully explained to me.
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What was questioned was just the PAGCOR funds (Php10M). The funds from the Department of Tourism (Php20M) wasn't even publicized. Like I said, these funds were suppose to go through proper channels. The above funds normally go to the National Sports Budget that's released through the Dept. Budget Management to the Philippine Sports Commission(PSC) to the requesting National Sports Association (NSA) then to winning bidder for the project. If the NSA (BSCP) said in the Senate hearing that they didn't recieve the funds and the PSC denying, in a PSC Press Release, that they released Php10M to BSCP and Yen (RAYA SPORTS)admitting, under oath in the Senate Hearing, that he recieved such funds. Then it's DBM directly >>>> RAYA! I think I heard that Yen has a former journalist colleague who's now a higher -up in DBM. We'll all soon find out.

The PSC can't release such an enormous amount to be a part of the Prize Money because according to POC Chairman Cojuangco that is against the law. All the other NSAs and other government agencies are going to be up in arms should they find out about this giving away taxpayers' money when there are other worthier projects in this third world country!


jay helfert said:
I do agree that the handling of the Alex "incident" was grossly unfair, and speaks of some bias against Alex. And the BMPAP should be recognized for what they do to support the Philippine pro players. No question that the top Philippine pros drive the "box office" at events they participate in. So special consideration should be given them by the producers of these events, if they are smart. But on the other hand, these top pros should be allowed to participate in major events, particularly on their own soil. Why boycott a major pro pool tournament right in your own backyard? Unless they are being used as pawns in some kind of power struggle. Once again the players seem to be the losers here. Like Jerry, I think the two sides need to bury the hatchet and sit down and work this out for the good of all parties.
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Should the players just allow organizations get away with such injustice and maltreatment? Still help these promoters recruit sponsors by joining these promoters' events? These players will keep on losing and still get mistreated and on top of that they still help these promoters by enhancing the "audience-drawing power" of such promoters. Bottomline is that they keep getting used as pawns to get event sponsors, entice other players to join the event and consequently increase the controlling power and revenue for the promoter. And if, too, the promoter has the power to field players to other international tournaments then the maltreatment worsens. This is misuse/abuse of authority and blackmail and that's why NSAs can't be promoters for professional events too. Difference between amateur and Professional is clearly defined here in the Philippines where we have a Government agency, GAB, that supervises and regulates all play for pay activities. International Organizations only got used to dealing with the POOL NSA here because there was no existing Government accredited Professional Pool organization until NOW, the BMPAP.

jay helfert said:
I have had good personal dealings with people on both sides of this issue, and I refuse to take sides either way. I would be quite willing to "moderate' a meeting between them to see if anything can be worked out. My observation is that one side brought two huge events (2006-7 WPC) to the Philippines and should be acknowledged for accomplishing that. And the other side has supported Philippine pros for many years and helped them become international stars. And they should be acknowledged for that. So both sides have done something that bettered the life of Philippine pool players.
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Agree but since there now is a professional organization the NSA should concentrate on what their actual responsibilities are. To develop grassroot programs for the sport and nominate representatives to the Asian Games, SEA Games and the WPC for Juniors and Girls. And its nominate by holding qualifiers composed of all qualified Filipino Citizens. Play-for-Pay events whether national or international is outside their jurisdiction as GAB is the authority for such.

jay helfert said:
My experience has been that by working together more can be accomplished than by working separately. The political in-fighting that is going on is detrimental to the Philippine pool scene in general. This bothers me personally because I happen to love the great events that have been held there, and I love the great players that the Philippines has produced. I would like to see more great tournaments in the Philippines featuring ALL their star players. Let's see how we can accomplish this. PLEASE!
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We tried that but they changed the rules in the middle of the Guinness Philippine Slots Qualifiers and showed our boys the door if they are not deemed by them as qualified participants or should they not agree with their (BSCP) middle of the on-going Qualifier rule change.

We said time and time again that BSCP should just stick to their responsibilities and let go of YEN if Yen still decides to operate RAYA. Yen can still be a GAB licensed promoter through RAYA and we can work with him as long as he doesn't have a post in the NSA to use the power of against our players. Unfortunately, they preferred absolute power so here is where we are now.
 
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What was questioned was just the PAGCOR funds (Php10M). The funds from the Department of Tourism (Php20M) wasn't even publicized. Like I said, these funds were suppose to go through proper channels. The above funds normally go to the National Sports Budget that's released through the Dept. Budget Management to the Philippine Sports Commission(PSC) to the requesting National Sports Association (NSA) then to winning bidder for the project. If the NSA (BSCP) said in the Senate hearing that they didn't recieve the funds and the PSC denying, in a PSC Press Release, that they released Php10M to BSCP and Yen (RAYA SPORTS)admitting, under oath in the Senate Hearing, that he recieved such funds. Then it's DBM directly >>>> RAYA! I think I heard that Yen has a former journalist colleague who's now a higher -up in DBM. We'll all soon find out.

The PSC can't release such an enormous amount to be a part of the Prize Money because according to POC Chairman Cojuangco that is against the law. All the other NSAs and other government agencies are going to be up in arms should they find out about this giving away taxpayers' money when there are other worthier projects in this third world country!



Should they just allow organizations get away with such injustice and maltreatment? Still help these promoters recruit sponsors by joining these promoters' events. They will keep on losing and still get mistreated on top of that if they help these promoters by enhancing the "audience-drawing power" of such promoters. Bottomline is that they keep getting used as pawns to get event sponsors, entice other players to join the event and consequently increase the revenue for the promoter. And if the promoter has the power to field players to other international tournaments then the maltreatment worsens. This is misuse/abuse of authority and blackmail and that's why NSAs can't be promoters for professional events too. Difference between amateur and Professional is clearly define here in the Philippines where we have a Government agency, GAB, that supervises and regulates all play for pay activities. International Organizations only got used to dealing with the POOL NSA here because there was no existing Government accredited Professional Pool organization until NOW, the BMPAP.

Agree but since there now is a professional organization the NSA should concentrate on what their actual responsibilities are. To develop grassroot programs for the sport and nominate representatives to the Asian Games, SEA Games and the WPC for Juniors and Girls. And its nominate by holding qualifiers composed of all qualified Filipino Citizens. Play-for-Pay events whether national or international is outside their jurisdiction as GAB is the authority for such.



We tried that but they changed the rules in the middle of the Guinness Philippine Slots Qualifiers and showed our boys the door if they are not deemed by them as qualified participants or should they not agree with their (BSCP) middle of the on-going Qualifier rule change.

We said time and time again that BSCP should just stick to their responsibilities and let go of YEN if Yen still decides to operate RAYA. Yen can still be a GAB licensed promoter through RAYA and we can work with him as long as he doesn't have a post in the NSA to use the power of against our players. Unfortunately, they preferred absolute power so here is where we are now.
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Thanks for this detailed response to my inquiry. I learned a few things here I was not previously aware of. I actually see light at the end of this tunnel. I think that things may get sorted out eventually when all involved see their respective roles in the filipino pool scene. There is enough room in the Asian pool market for many promoters of different events to be productive.

There is an old saying that is apropos here. When one door closes another one opens.
 
Jay, please re-read because I was adding info(editing the post) when you replied. I replied to your "why was the 3rd WPC stopped from being held in the Phil" question.
 
bandido said:
Jay, please re-read because I was adding info(editing the post) when you replied. I replied to your "why was the 3rd WPC stopped from being held in the Phil" question.
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I, more than anyone, hope there is a 2008 WPC in the PI again. I'll rack balls if it will help! :D
 
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