Final Day US Open 2017 Updates

Jayson was the dominant player all week. In a field of great players he stood out. There were many excellent players there but no one overpowers the table like Jayson. Reminiscent of Earl in his prime and Shane most recently, when they both played a speed above anyone else.

IMO Jayson is the best pool player in the world today! It doesn't mean he will win everything because there are so many other good players, but he will win more than his fair share. He has to be one of the favorites in any major he plays in now. Even his countenance is different. He looks and carries himself like the champion he is. No more the wise cracking, temperamental kid. In the arena, Jayson is very much a Man!

He has to be an automatic pick for Team Europe now, and a big roadblock for Team USA.
 
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jay helfert said:
Jayson was the dominant player all week. In a field of great players he stood out. There were many excellent players there but no one overpowers the table like Jayson. Reminiscent of Earl in his prime and Shane most recently, when they both played a speed above anyone else.

IMO Jayson is the best pool player in the world today! It doesn't mean he will win everything because there are so many other good players, but he will win more than his fair share. He has to be one of the favorites in any major he plays in now. Even his countenance is different. He looks and carries himself like the champion he is. No more the wise cracking, temperamental kid. In the arena, Jayson is very much a Man!

He has to be an automatic pick for Team Europe now, and a big roadblock for Team USA.
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Jayson Shaw he has his Eagle Eye on the World 9-Ball Championships in December now.
 
Shaw played a different game than the rest of pack. He is on a roll.

Its very exciting for the game of pool.
 
PoolBum said:
Each player gets one automatic extension per rack. If the clock hits zero and then starts at 40 again, that's their extension. If it hits zero when they're down on their shot, as long as they stay down and shoot it's not a violation.

It's only a shot clock violation if they've used their extension, and the clock winds down to zero, and they're not down to shoot yet or they're down to shoot when it hits zero but they get back up without shooting. That hasn't happened in this match.
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That is a mighty odd use of a shot clock as it’s normally timed to the cb being struck rather then just being down on the shot. Seems open to abuse. Suppose if you were running out of time you just get down on a shot until you make your mind up on how to play the shot.
 
jay helfert said:
Jayson was the dominant player all week. In a field of great players he stood out. There were many excellent players there but no one overpowers the table like Jayson. Reminiscent of Earl in his prime and Shane most recently, when they both played a speed above anyone else.

IMO Jayson is the best pool player in the world today! It doesn't mean he will win everything because there are so many other good players, but he will win more than his fair share. He has to be one of the favorites in any major he plays in now. Even his countenance is different. He looks and carries himself like the champion he is. No more the wise cracking, temperamental kid. In the arena, Jayson is very much a Man!

He has to be an automatic pick for Team Europe now, and a big roadblock for Team USA.
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I hear the win takes him to #1 in the world rankings too, so even if he wasn’t already a lock for a Euro team wild card, he has to be now.
 
jay helfert said:
Jayson was the dominant player all week. In a field of great players he stood out. There were many excellent players there but no one overpowers the table like Jayson. Reminiscent of Earl in his prime and Shane most recently, when they both played a speed above anyone else.

IMO Jayson is the best pool player in the world today! It doesn't mean he will win everything because there are so many other good players, but he will win more than his fair share. He has to be one of the favorites in any major he plays in now. Even his countenance is different. He looks and carries himself like the champion he is. No more the wise cracking, temperamental kid. In the arena, Jayson is very much a Man!

He has to be an automatic pick for Team Europe now, and a big roadblock for Team USA.
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The world I'm not so sure but I was torched here not to long ago when I said he was the best residing on US soil , because after all the variance of turney play does not always produce the best player lol ,,

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Congratulations to Shaw!

Anyone care to list all the players he mowed thru and the scores?
 
I'd be interested to see how Shaw's W-L record through the tournament compares to other US Open champions.
 
Blue Jam said:
That is a mighty odd use of a shot clock as it’s normally timed to the cb being struck rather then just being down on the shot. Seems open to abuse. Suppose if you were running out of time you just get down on a shot until you make your mind up on how to play the shot.
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I personally like the way they used the shot clock. It keeps things moving without rushing players who shoot slower.

Also, if someone attempted to abuse it that way, I’m sure the TD can warn and/or call a foul at their discretion.
 
Superb performance the whole tournament from Shaw. Congrats to Shaw
Only 1 hill hill match . 68% racks won. I see most tourneys are won around 60% or less so 68% is off the charts. Means he wins on average 11-3 or 11-4 against this monster world class field of players. Except for early rounds , all are high Fargo rated opponents:)
 
vapoolplayer said:
I personally like the way they used the shot clock. It keeps things moving without rushing players who shoot slower.

Also, if someone attempted to abuse it that way, I’m sure the TD can warn and/or call a foul at their discretion.
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I agree, I liked the way the shot clock was used. It forced opponents to keep the game moving, pick a shot, and go for it, without interfering with their execution.

I watched about 20 hours of pool with the shot clock and only once did I see a player get down on a shot and time out, only to glance around without lifting out of stance so still 'making up their mind' while the clock showed 0 seconds left. Even then they just had to go with it and pull the trigger.

In other words, it did it's job.

The bigger concern for gamesmanship was allowing players to 'request to have the cue ball cleaned'. I saw several times when a player had already used their extension and had to shoot a difficult and crucial shot where they called the ref for the cue ball to be cleaned. During the 30 second cleaning the player then scanned the table, took deep breaths, and composed themselves, preparing for the inning.

Now, it's hard to know for sure that they were abusing the rules, as maybe since these were critical shots they just wanted to ensure the cue ball was clean. But it seemed a little fishy when playing with a time clock.

I don't know what the right answer to this is. One could be to only allow a cue ball cleaning in exchange for an extension. Another could be to eliminate this request (I never saw that allowed in the 80s and 90s and it's not done at all in money games or regional tournaments).

Not a big deal, just sharing what I saw. But back to the main point, the 'not timing out if you're down on the shot' rule was one I really liked. It preserved both the pace and integrity of the game.
 
vapoolplayer said:
My napkin math has him 90-42 over the course of 8 matches.

68% win rate.
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Shaw's game-winning percentage of 68% compares with Van Boening's in his 5 wins as follows:

2007 -- 64% (101-56)
2012 -- 70% (90-38)
2013 -- 66% (90-47)
2014 -- 60% (79-52)
2016 -- 60% (138-92)

Total for 5 winning years -- 64% (498-285)
 
Tin Man said:
I agree, I liked the way the shot clock was used. It forced opponents to keep the game moving, pick a shot, and go for it, without interfering with their execution.

I watched about 20 hours of pool with the shot clock and only once did I see a player get down on a shot and time out, only to glance around without lifting out of stance so still 'making up their mind' while the clock showed 0 seconds left. Even then they just had to go with it and pull the trigger.

In other words, it did it's job.

The bigger concern for gamesmanship was allowing players to 'request to have the cue ball cleaned'. I saw several times when a player had already used their extension and had to shoot a difficult and crucial shot where they called the ref for the cue ball to be cleaned. During the 30 second cleaning the player then scanned the table, took deep breaths, and composed themselves, preparing for the inning.

Now, it's hard to know for sure that they were abusing the rules, as maybe since these were critical shots they just wanted to ensure the cue ball was clean. But it seemed a little fishy when playing with a time clock.

I don't know what the right answer to this is. One could be to only allow a cue ball cleaning in exchange for an extension. Another could be to eliminate this request (I never saw that allowed in the 80s and 90s and it's not done at all in money games or regional tournaments).

Not a big deal, just sharing what I saw. But back to the main point, the 'not timing out if you're down on the shot' rule was one I really liked. It preserved both the pace and integrity of the game.
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Just have the ref clean the cue after each rack or every so many racks. They’d have to get highly unlucky for enough chalk to hit the contact point and cling in that short amount of time.
 
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