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Yes, it can Yellow, and I have had it do it, maybe you haven't and that's fine, but my reply saying it will is just as relevant as yours saying it wont. You dont have to agree :smile:
Just look at the bottle above, it is already yellow, it isn't going to turn clear when it is mixed up, its just in a cue you might not notice it as we don't normally use bright white inlays or joints, they are usually Ivory colored or off white, and I am not talking about turning brown or dark Yellow, just a light Yellow tint to it which might not even be noticeable over a white inlay without having a uncoated one next to it.
Yep, and they are usually lit with fluorescent lights which give off UV. Look at the cues in a cue for sale rack, some of them that have been in there a while will be faded on the front from exposure.
First you say it wont Yellow, now you say it may be due to application? It cant be both, either it will Yellow or it wont.
Finish cure is meant for glassing and I have used it properly for years, even vacuum bagging a glassed wing with it in a heat box.
Your mileage may vary :smile:
CueJo, I have not but will be experimenting with some scraps in next couple of days. It has been used on things like old wooden Boats. The thing I will be looking at most will be the sanding and ability to bring high gloss back. I need to Jump on the CueJo Blues as well.
You disregard my point in that you probably didn't use it correctly. If it yellowed, you used it incorrectly. Period. The only way it yellows if improperly used, so therefore since it yellowed on you, you used it improperly. It needs to be used at 85 degrees and if used at cooler temperatures which you obviously have used it, then it will yellow. Not difficult to understand.
Use properly = doesn't yellow
Used improperly = it will yellow
As far as using a cue under UV lighting at a pool room, it won't yellow. And the cue is not just sitting there when you are playing nor are you playing for 24 hours straight, 7 days a week. Furthermore, it will withstand yellowing in a showcase as many cues are left for sale. I cannot comment on cues left in a showcase that yellowed as that is irrelevant because they are not using the product being discussed. You are talking in general and this is a specific discussion about Finish Cure not yellowing. This is not about cues left in a showcase.
Further proof that you don't know what you are talking about is the fact that you stated, for a second time, to look at the Finish Cure in your package which is yellow. As Chris Hightower stated in post #26, which you obviously missed or ignored, yellowing in the bottle is normal for epoxies as they are stable and dry clear when mixed. This little known fact, you obviously didn't know otherwise you would have never showed the bottles.
And you stated, "Leave it in the sunlight for 1-3 years, not 3 days which is what my findings show, if you don't agree I cant help that, I am just adding to the discussion and relaying my experience to what has happened using this epoxy".
How did you achieve your "experience"? Did you leave one of your $5000 planes out in the sunlight for 1 to 3 years? Or perhaps it was one of your $20,000 turbine jet toys you left outside in the sun. The only "experience" you seem to have with the product is using it incorrectly which led to it yellowing.
I don't mind if you add to the discussion as long as it is valid information. It is the misinformation you are spewing that is not adding to the discussion.
Yes, planes are in the sunlight for 8 hours a day, 2 days a week for 1-3 years at the flying field.
Sorry but just because YOU don't think it is valid, does not make it so, you don't determine what is valid and what is not, and are not a ruler of who posts in this thread. I have posted no misinformation just facts from my experience as you have, it yellowed. I think your test is misinformation and not valid, slapping some on a piece of paper shows nothing.
BTW The topic of this thread is about finishing, not only finish cure epoxy but all finishing.
I used it exactly how it was designed to be used and it yellowed, Period.
For your enjoyment, a 20k "toy" crashing at 200mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
Sorry but just because YOU don't think it is valid, does not make it so, you don't determine what is valid and what is not, and are not a ruler of who posts in this thread. I have posted no misinformation just facts from my experience as you have, it yellowed. I think your test is misinformation and not valid, slapping some on a piece of paper shows nothing.
BTW The topic of this thread is about finishing, not only finish cure epoxy but all finishing.
I used it exactly how it was designed to be used and it yellowed, Period.
For your enjoyment, a 20k "toy" crashing at 200mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
Yes, planes are in the sunlight for 8 hours a day, 2 days a week for 1-3 years at the flying field.
Sorry but just because YOU don't think it is valid, does not make it so, you don't determine what is valid and what is not, and are not a ruler of who posts in this thread. I have posted no misinformation just facts from my experience as you have, it yellowed. I think your test is misinformation and not valid, slapping some on a piece of paper shows nothing.
BTW The topic of this thread is about finishing, not only finish cure epoxy but all finishing.
I used it exactly how it was designed to be used and it yellowed, Period.
For your enjoyment, a 20k "toy" crashing at 200mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR4CntziBe4
Just as you posted an incorrect link and didn't take the time to check and see that your link works proves your inability to perform tasks with accuracy.
I'm done. Have a wonderful week.
The link works fine, but as your inability to click on a link correctly, proves your inability to perform tasks with accuracy.
there is not a strong odor,much better than the ca.
There is a solution to the fumes of cyano and it's called odorless cyano but it's too expensive for most.
A 2 oz bottle of regular cyano can easily finish about 5 cues. Regular cyano runs about $5.50 per bottle so the cost is about a dollar or so to finish one cue.
Odorless cyano runs about $20 per bottle and using the same formula as above, that would equate to about $4 per cue - a prohibitive cost for some.
You obviously did not read what it said when you clicked on the link.
"The content owner has not made this video available to on mobile. Add to playlist to watch it on a PC later"
So it is your inability to follow directions and like I said, the link is just fine, it is the end user that is having the problem.
Just because you dont like my findings that I posted is no reason to attack the messenger, only people with weak arguments resort to that.
"The content owner has not made this video available to on mobile. Add to playlist to watch it on a PC later"
So it is your inability to follow directions and like I said, the link is just fine, it is the end user that is having the problem.
Just because you dont like my findings that I posted is no reason to attack the messenger, only people with weak arguments resort to that.
You never said, "The content owner has not made this video available to on mobile. Add to playlist to watch it on a PC later."
If you did state that, I would have known what to do. As far as my "inability", I can only do with what I have to work with and you provided a bad link without any further disclaimer. Not me.
Furthermore, your info regarding the Finish Cure is innacurate as you applied it incorrectly and that's why it didn't work for you.
Additionally, another small fact you refuse to address is the following statement made by myself and Hightower so I'll repeat it below for your convenience:
Further proof that you don't know what you are talking about is the fact that you stated, for a second time, to look at the Finish Cure in your package which is yellow. As Chris Hightower stated in post #26, which you obviously missed or ignored, yellowing in the bottle is normal for epoxies as they are stable and dry clear when mixed. This little known fact, you obviously didn't know otherwise you would have never showed the bottles.
If you knew how all this worked and if you knew what you were talking about, you would have never stated that the epoxy in the bottle was yellow. Of course it's yellow!
Why can't you just admit that you didn't know about the yellowing in the bottle which was normal and you didn't know that.
I give up. Have at it as I am done with this nonsense.
I don't have to say you need to watch it on a PC, I'm not going to hold your hand on the internet, the instructions are right there when you click it. The link is good as stated, it is a valid link that goes to a valid page, YOU are the one having issues and you cant admit it, you just want to argue.
You don't care about toy airplanes anyway so don't bother with it, nothing you want to see.
You will argue with a brick wall over nothing, even when wrong, just to argue. I stated my facts and I'm done wasting my time with someone so closed minded.
You don't care about toy airplanes anyway so don't bother with it, nothing you want to see.
You will argue with a brick wall over nothing, even when wrong, just to argue. I stated my facts and I'm done wasting my time with someone so closed minded.
Who's arguing. I'm just pointing out your misinformation and it's ticking you off that you can't defend your position otherwise you'd address my queries.
You're the one with the misinformation as your link, when clicked, does not state anything except NO VIDEO FOUND when using my iPad. I don't have issues. You're the one with issues who can't admit when he's wrong.
Once again, you failed to acknowledge that you posted pictures of bottles with yellowing epoxy and didn't know that the color change was normal. You then want us to believe that you used the epoxy correctly as well. Yeah, right, sure, ok!
Brick wall? Closed minded?
I asked you time and time again but you side step each issue because you can't address my questions as your errors are not defendable. Hmmm, perhaps you should contact the Obama camp as they're looking for people who can side step issues and propagate misinformation. You fit the ticket! You're hired!
Enjoy life in the wrong lane. :grin:
Read past posts and you can find all the information you asked, you fail to read. Hightower said that his cue cote is stable after mixed, nowhere did he say it turned clear after mixed as your changed words quote. Like I said, read closely, I told you what I used it on and my findings. Cant hold your hand so go brow beat someone else...
There is no information in your past posts; just side stepping all my questions. No one is brow beating this issue. You refuse to accept the fact that you are wrong and that you started this due to your lack of knowledge about the product where you did not know that Finish Cure and other epoxies turn color in time which does not affect the results. You posted misinformation about a quality product because you lacked knowledge.
Here's the proof:
Post #25 shows that you have no idea about Finish Cue, you stated:
"The 20 minute finish cure Epoxy also yellows, these are brand new bottles and you can see the hardener has yellowed".
You state, the hardnerer has "yellowed" meaning that the product yellows and the yellow bottles was your proof. You're dead wrong! There is correct and there is incorrect - you are incorrect just as the day is clear.
Here is what Hightower said in post #26 with regard to your misinformation:
"The Cue Cote hardener I use also yellows with shelf life, but is really stable when mixed and applied. So I am guessing the UV inhibitor is in the resin. That could also be the case with the finish cure. Auto clear coats also yellow over time. It is just how much time it takes. They seem to be the most stable color wise".
Do you see where he states, "but is really stable when mixed and applied". That now shows that you don't have a clue to what you're reading as you just said Hightower didn't say, "it turned clear after mixed" when he did say that it did turn clear when mixed. More misinformation!
And then in post #28, I stated:
"This post has no bearing on the reality of how this product works. Yes, it is yellow in the packaging (normal) but goes on clear, dries clear and does not yellow. Out tests proves that".
Can you read? Do you see where Hightower states that his Cue Cote does the same thing and then states that this "could also be the case with the finish cure". And then I confirm and state that the yellowing is normal in the packaging.
So there you have it. Learn to read and admit when you're dead wrong. You posted misinformation and when we tried to corrrect you, you blatently post additional misinformation to cover your steps. Give it up.