First Gambling Experience at 9-ball!

RBLilly

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Well everyone has kept telling me that I needed to start gambling a bit in order to calm my nerves for bigger tournaments. They told me by playing under pressure for money it trains the brain for playing in pressure situations at tournaments. (Or something to that affect.)

So a buddy of mine tells me to play this guy in our town cause he will gamble with anyone. He likes the competition, and he owns his own company so money isn't an issue. He will gamble small or big, doesn't matter. Also I have never seen this guy hustle anyone. He plays to win everytime. (I liked that idea too, cause I want to get prepared don't want to get hustled.)

So last week we talked about playing some, and I told him I need the pressure to get me past all the jitters for playing in a tournament. So he said this week would be a good week to start playing. He also said he would give me the 7 out! (Now I don't want to brag but I figured he would only give the 8!)

So last night he comes up and ask if I want to play, and I say of course! So he says how bout a race to 5 for $20. I said no problem, but that I couldn't stick around too long. So win or loose I need to get home. (He said he doesn't care about all that, and it is cool.) So he wins the flip and away we go!

I won that set 5 - 1! I made some really good runs and I was up on him 3 games before he got the 1.

I asked him if he wanted one more since that went so quick. He said one more and then he needed to get going too.

So I broke and ran out the 7 on the first rack. I broke and snapped off the 9 on the second rack! I won the 3rd rack. Then he won a game on me again. I won the last two and it looked like de ja vu with a 5 - 1 victory again.

The best part is how I won the very last game! He tried to combo the 6 into the 9, but the 9 popped out. It left me in a possition that I had to 3 rail kick the 6 in! I was on the hill so I took the chance and hit it perfect! Then I combo the 7 into the 9 for the win! The best part about that game is everyone was leaving so they stopped and watched to see if I could win that game. (That was a little pressure trying to go 3 rails with all your friends watching! LOL)

Anyway, I was really happy that I won both times. I don't think he will give me the 7 out next week. Maybe he will give me the 8 though. We will just have to wait and see, but I promised I would give him a shot at his money back next week. He loves to play so I know he will play every week that I want.

What I was surprised about is how calm I was shooting. The only pressure I felt was when I shot at the 6 on a 3 rail kick. The rest of the time I just put the money out of my mind, and played my game. That really surprised me, and I hope that I can start doing the same thing in tournaments. Just not think about anything but playing and having fun.

Anyway, I know all of you guys have probably had more experience at this stuff but I am still stoked that I played so well. I was a bit nervous because earlier that night in league I was playing horrible! LOL
 
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I've always had a bad taste in my mouth when someone asks me to play for money, and then asks for a spot. If you're asking me for a game, play me straight. If you're looking to steady your nerves, running to the 7 won't do it.

Congrats on the win, but step up to the competition next time. You're playing 9-ball. Handicap it with games on the wire. Otherwise, all you're doing is becoming the best 7-ball player you can be.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
I've always had a bad taste in my mouth when someone asks me to play for money, and then asks for a spot. If you're asking me for a game, play me straight. If you're looking to steady your nerves, running to the 7 won't do it.

Congrats on the win, but step up to the competition next time. You're playing 9-ball. Handicap it with games on the wire. Otherwise, all you're doing is becoming the best 7-ball player you can be.

I didn't ask for the spot, he was cocky enough that he told me he would give me the 7 out! So I took it!

Next week I doubt he will give me the 7 out, he will either want to play straight up, or he will only give the 8. I think he is cocky enough he will give me the 8.

I would play him straight up anyway, but if they want to give you a spot I say let them!

The nerves thing comes from the money. If you are playing for money it is a pressure type situation. If you aren't playing for money what do you have to loose? I normally don't play for money, and my friends tell me that I need to even if it is 5 bucks cause I need to get past the pressure of playing for something!
 
Yep....I doubt he will be giving up the 7 out again !!

You will be able to get the 8 though.

And, don't get to comfortable yet..........pool is a funny game. You bested him with two 5-1 sets. But the next time it may flip and you will be down 2 sets when HE gets the rolls.......

The pool gods are funny that way.

Congrats on stepping up and playin for green....!!!

Russ.....
 
txplshrk said:
Well everyone has kept telling me that I needed to start gambling a bit in order to calm my nerves for bigger tournaments. They told me by playing under pressure for money it trains the brain for playing in pressure situations at tournaments. (Or something to that affect.)

So a buddy of mine tells me to play this guy in our town cause he will gamble with anyone. He likes the competition, and he owns his own company so money isn't an issue. He will gamble small or big, doesn't matter. Also I have never seen this guy hustle anyone. He plays to win everytime. (I liked that idea too, cause I want to get prepared don't want to get hustled.)

So last week we talked about playing some, and I told him I need the pressure to get me past all the jitters for playing in a tournament. So he said this week would be a good week to start playing. He also said he would give me the 7 out! (Now I don't want to brag but I figured he would only give the 8!)

So last night he comes up and ask if I want to play, and I say of course! So he says how bout a race to 5 for $20. I said no problem, but that I couldn't stick around too long. So win or loose I need to get home. (He said he doesn't care about all that, and it is cool.) So he wins the flip and away we go!

I won that set 5 - 1! I made some really good runs and I was up on him 3 games before he got the 1.

I asked him if he wanted one more since that went so quick. He said one more and then he needed to get going too.

So I broke and ran out the 7 on the first rack. I broke and snapped off the 9 on the second rack! I won the 3rd rack. Then he won a game on me again. I won the last two and it looked like de ja vu with a 5 - 1 victory again.

The best part is how I won the very last game! He tried to combo the 6 into the 9, but the 9 popped out. It left me in a possition that I had to 3 rail kick the 6 in! I was on the hill so I took the chance and hit it perfect! Then I combo the 7 into the 9 for the win! The best part about that game is everyone was leaving so they stopped and watched to see if I could win that game. (That was a little pressure trying to go 3 rails with all your friends watching! LOL)

Anyway, I was really happy that I won both times. I don't think he will give me the 7 out next week. Maybe he will give me the 8 though. We will just have to wait and see, but I promised I would give him a shot at his money back next week. He loves to play so I know he will play every week that I want.

What I was surprised about is how calm I was shooting. The only pressure I felt was when I shot at the 6 on a 3 rail kick. The rest of the time I just put the money out of my mind, and played my game. That really surprised me, and I hope that I can start doing the same thing in tournaments. Just not think about anything but playing and having fun.

Anyway, I know all of you guys have probably had more experience at this stuff but I am still stoked that I played so well. I was a bit nervous because earlier that night in league I was playing horrible! LOL


Wow, thank God. I thought you were going to tell us, "Jude said if I want to improve my game I should gamble. I lost my house BUT like Jude said, I feel much more comfortable playing for money."

Good going! Always follow the basic rules of gambling. Never gamble more than you can afford and all is good.
 
poolhustler said:
Yep....I doubt he will be giving up the 7 out again !!

You will be able to get the 8 though.

And, don't get to comfortable yet..........pool is a funny game. You bested him with two 5-1 sets. But the next time it may flip and you will be down 2 sets when HE gets the rolls.......

The pool gods are funny that way.

Congrats on stepping up and playin for green....!!!

Russ.....

Yea, the next time he will probably beat me down! So I will just have to keep at it and keep trying. It was a good experience for me, and I will continue to try and improve my mindset and my game.
 
Yeah, and be careful of who you play for money. Things can get real shady real quick. But, you were smart and chose the right guy based on the knowledge you had on him. To put yourself in some real pressure, play with any random person you can for money. You'll run into some real a-holes that might really get under your skin. Eventually you can overcome that too. I agree, stick to what you can afford and don't let anyone sweet talk you into anything else.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Wow, thank God. I thought you were going to tell us, "Jude said if I want to improve my game I should gamble. I lost my house BUT like Jude said, I feel much more comfortable playing for money."

Good going! Always follow the basic rules of gambling. Never gamble more than you can afford and all is good.


Well I went in last night with only $20 in my pocket, and I knew he would want to play a $20 set. So I told him win or loose I only had time for one set! When I won the first set, I had no problems playing one more because I knew I could at worst break even. I only had $20 to loose, and I knew that if I lost it that is all I could afford to loose last night.

When I gamble in casinos I only take as much money as I want to loose, cause I know I won't be winning! LOL

So I just went into it with that mentality. If I won then great, but if I lost then I would just be out the money I could afford to loose! LOL

Thanks for the advice Jude!
 
noRulez said:
Yeah, and be careful of who you play for money. Things can get real shady real quick. But, you were smart and chose the right guy based on the knowledge you had on him. To put yourself in some real pressure, play with any random person you can for money. You'll run into some real a-holes that might really get under your skin. Eventually you can overcome that too. I agree, stick to what you can afford and don't let anyone sweet talk you into anything else.

Yea, I will only gamble with people I know. I know this guy pretty well, and he has gotten a lot of people around here started. I know several guys that have improved their game by playing against him for money. I know a few others in town that will be good to gamble with too, but right now they would take all my money. I need to step up a little bit before I try and tackle those guys. Besides this guy will probably beat me down next week to teach me a lesson on the table. I want to get to where I can consistently take him with no spot. Then I will look for some other action. I just wanted to get my feet wet and put a little pressure on myself. He is a pretty good guy, and like I said I can play him any time.
 
Playing for money will really help your game, but always being in the driver's seat isn't that great for player development. If it's like taking candy from a baby, it's just that ... you are the guy who's taking a baby's candy. Not that I don't like money, I will take an easy game every time.

Here's an example of what I mean.

I play a player I know I am better than, but he likes to "ride the 9" and gets lucky and stays even for a while, then he starts getting the rolls and gets up at least 5 games. Normally, 5 is my cut off, I feel like if I have lost this much I probably am supposed to (at least at that moment). Instead, I stick it out, concentrate on nothing but the table (advice from another post by Louis Ulrich) and stay in it. By night's end he is stuck 15 games loser.

This is not a mention of "heart" it's about bearing down and playing to the ability you should as you mentioned you are trying to do.
 
noRulez said:
Yeah, and be careful of who you play for money. Things can get real shady real quick. But, you were smart and chose the right guy based on the knowledge you had on him. To put yourself in some real pressure, play with any random person you can for money. You'll run into some real a-holes that might really get under your skin. Eventually you can overcome that too. I agree, stick to what you can afford and don't let anyone sweet talk you into anything else.

Especially don't let anyone who you've beaten try to up the bet a lot and call you a coward or someone with no heart. Or call you a degenerate or whatever to make you feel bad about yourself. Those guys are scumbags, and out to rob you.
 
iba7467 said:
Playing for money will really help your game, but always being in the driver's seat isn't that great for player development. If it's like taking candy from a baby, it's just that ... you are the guy who's taking a baby's candy. Not that I don't like money, I will take an easy game every time.

Here's an example of what I mean.

I play a player I know I am better than, but he likes to "ride the 9" and gets lucky and stays even for a while, then he starts getting the rolls and gets up at least 5 games. Normally, 5 is my cut off, I feel like if I have lost this much I probably am supposed to (at least at that moment). Instead, I stick it out, concentrate on nothing but the table (advice from another post by Louis Ulrich) and stay in it. By night's end he is stuck 15 games loser.

This is not a mention of "heart" it's about bearing down and playing to the ability you should as you mentioned you are trying to do.


Well it really wasn't easy. I know that the numbers make it look like I kicked butt, but this guy is pretty good.

The problem was he gave me too big of spot.

Straight up he could probably clean my clock.............and I still would have played him straight up.

Next week I think he will adjust the spot, or want to play straight up, and I am still game for that.

It was just a good deal to get my feet wet with!

That, and for some reason I was shooting really well. I played a lot of great safteys too!
 
Flex said:
Especially don't let anyone who you've beaten try to up the bet a lot and call you a coward or someone with no heart. Or call you a degenerate or whatever to make you feel bad about yourself. Those guys are scumbags, and out to rob you.

Na......I will only play what I have to loose! That is like when I play the lottery. I only play if I have a dollar that I can afford to donate to the State of TX. LOL I see people though spend half their pay check on the damn lottery, and talk about how much they have won! I wonder how much they have lost!
 
txplshrk said:
Na......I will only play what I have to loose! That is like when I play the lottery. I only play if I have a dollar that I can afford to donate to the State of TX. LOL I see people though spend half their pay check on the damn lottery, and talk about how much they have won! I wonder how much they have lost!

A friend told me the other day he just won a small amount in a mini-lotto, because 3 of the 5 numbers matched. He won $100 I think. He's been playing it for years.

So I asked him if he'd gotten all his money back that he'd spent on the lottery over the years. He said no way, he'd need to get back about $100,000.00 ....

Nuff said.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
I've always had a bad taste in my mouth when someone asks me to play for money, and then asks for a spot. If you're asking me for a game, play me straight. If you're looking to steady your nerves, running to the 7 won't do it. wire. Otherwise, all you're doing is becoming the best 7-ball player you can

Congrats on the win, but step up to the competition next time. You're playing 9-ball. Handicap it with games on the be.


i awalys take it as a complement when someone asks me for weight,

to the origonal poster of this thread, any action is good action, it builds your confidence 2 races to 5 is great and it isnt time to adjust the spot, beat him in some longer races consistantly then adjust the spot, but play other people even or weaker players spot them a little something.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Wow, thank God. I thought you were going to tell us, "Jude said if I want to improve my game I should gamble. I lost my house BUT like Jude said, I feel much more comfortable playing for money."

Good going! Always follow the basic rules of gambling. Never gamble more than you can afford and all is good.

Good job, and you gotta take the 7 if he's gonna offer it, are you kidding me?

That is great advice. I always play for money, unless I'm playing my girlfriend(she ain't that bad a player). Usually it's $5-20 a rack. Maybe race to 5 for a $100. The guys I bet with are all close to my level, and it can go either way on any given night. I think we all just pass the same 5's & 20's around every Wed & Fri. I just love to gamble. Same with golf. I never bet more than I can afford to lose, because thats when gambling ceases to be fun for me. I never even want to think about how much money I am playing for when I am playing. Just shot & shape. In the end it's all about rolling balls into holes with fancy sticks, and if there's a 20 spot at the end so much the better!:D
 
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OK, sorry to play grammar/spelling cop, but this one drives me nuts.

Loose = not tight
Lose = not winning

Had to get it off my chest.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
OK, sorry to play grammar/spelling cop, but this one drives me nuts.

Loose = not tight
Lose = not winning

Had to get it off my chest.

Dammit, and the spell check won't catch that one! Glad I am no English major. I am really bad about there, their, and they're. LOL

Oh well.................hopefully one day I can get it right!
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
OK, sorry to play grammar/spelling cop, but this one drives me nuts.

Loose = not tight
Lose = not winning

Had to get it off my chest.

You need to get out moore.
 
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