DeeDeeCues
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The worst warped cue I've ever seen was a Joss that had the forearm finger-joined to the handle. That was a cue from the nineties.
First Joss cue impressions
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I have been playing with Joss cues exclusively since the early 90's and have yet to find a better hitting/feeling cue. The closest I found was a Schon CX series but the Joss still prevailed. Dan Janes made me a one of a kind (black and white one in the pics), it has a 3/4 wrap which was originally white on black linen but I replaced with leather (rat tail lizard about 10 years ago). The one in the middle is an N-series cue (never could figure out which model but was told once it was an N-10 but they don't match exactly), and the brown is a Joss Sneaky Pete also with a 3/4 wrap brown spec linen. The one Dan made me in the late 90's replaced the one in the middle for me and I use the sneaky pete to break with and/or just sits in my bag as I also have a Jacoby break cue.
Anyway, I love the Joss Dan made for me, it has a REVO 12.4 on it now and I can't imagine using another cue.
Anyway, I love the Joss Dan made for me, it has a REVO 12.4 on it now and I can't imagine using another cue.
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sure it was Joss? all i've heard is they are all full length cored cues. i know Viking finger joins their cues together but not joss . never heard of Joss from the 90's warping much less from a a-joint they didn't use.
DeeDeeCues
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Positive it was Joss. We were all surprised because it was in great shape otherwise.
It was a very low end cue for them.
sure wish i'd seen it 'cause all J's from that era i've owned/seen were fully cored. No finger jointed forearms that i know of. still have big doubts it was a Joss cue.
I have 3 Josses I won’t sell…a ‘92 Sneaky Pete, an ‘86 Block Letter, and a first year Joss…’68
When I first met Danny Jane, he’d just watched me skunk a guy in a tournament….he told me he didn’t have a first year Joss in his collection…wondered if I would sell mine….I told him we do a trade…I get a half an hour in his shop with an empty truck…
….he grinned “I got a feeling you really like it.”
When I first met Danny Jane, he’d just watched me skunk a guy in a tournament….he told me he didn’t have a first year Joss in his collection…wondered if I would sell mine….I told him we do a trade…I get a half an hour in his shop with an empty truck…
….he grinned “I got a feeling you really like it.”
I bought a 4pt player with 2shafts(ivory ferrules) around '80-'81 for the princely sum of 162bux delivered. Wish i still had that bad boy. Oh well.
DeeDeeCues
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How do you know all of them were fully cored? Did you take the wrap off of every one? Did you x-ray each of them? I'd love to know how you can look at a wrapped cue and tell the internal construction method.
Dan started coring all his cues in the late eighties iirc. Except for maybe a sneaky-pete his cues have been cored since then. I sent Dan a msg to be sure on this. Never heard of him finger-joining a forearm together.
DeeDeeCues
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Good info. The finger joint was in the handle, maybe two or three inches below what would have been the a-joint. There were no rings. Maybe it was a knock-off, but it had the Joss logo.
a friend of mine bought a "joss" on aliexpress, it actually looked great. so yea there are credible knockoffs even of joss
Would a Lucasi cue be considered a quick release? Somebody I knew had one years ago and I unscrewed it which took about
two turns.
I think he was referring to a butt ext QR. And yes Lucasi used a lot of UniLoc which are a QR-style joint.
Not only does Joss produce fine cues, chatting with Dan is a pleasure. There is always more to a cue than the hit and that is the people that run the business. Cannot recall any negative comments about Dan Janes, that says a lot about him and Joss Cues!
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Yeh, this wasn't a butt ext. And "Uniloc" refreshes my memory and that's what he said the joint was. Nice looking cue
and the hit/feel was quite good. Is Lucasi still making cues?
I have a 1968 JOSS block lettered logo as well... 2 shafts... still straight as an arrow... very solid feel. I did have to have the butt plug replaced and used a black one because we wouldn't find a brown one. This cue will never be sold... in fact I would love to find another 1968-1971 JOSS for my collection. (FYI also looking for a 60's Viking with a super joint and glass window logo)
If anyone knows of one for sale or trade, let me know please.
Thanks...
If anyone knows of one for sale or trade, let me know please.
Thanks...
Nyquil
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Yeah that is super annoying. Those are designed as perm options. I don't have the room in my basement to play with a 64 inch cue at every angle. I want a quick-release butt extension. Every other cue company makes them. Have no idea why joss cant/won't.