Fixing Crowned Slate on a GC4

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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to show off one of the tricks of the trade that King Cobra went over at the Chicago seminar. Though a bottle jack was used at that time, when this was taken all I had was the scissor jack in my Express Van! As it turns out, the linear control vs hydraulic might actually work better as pressure is building in the strapping.
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Looks like its done right. Thats a great technique Glen showed you I have had to use it alot its so easy to do and the reward is perfection with no speed bumps.

Great job....

Craig
 
OTLB said:
how would crowned slate be corrected on a Diamond proam with one piece slate?
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Not to worry, I have devised a system that will correct any crowned 1 piece slates on any Diamond table, much easier than a 3 piece slate:grin:

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Not to worry, I have devised a system that will correct any crowned 1 piece slates on any Diamond table, much easier than a 3 piece slate:grin:

Glen
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I am not worried, its ok if you don't want to share. There are many ways to bring down a crown(5 that I know of), just didn't know about on the one piece but after looking at the frame I can see where I can do it also. Figured you would have to address that issue at some point.
 
OTLB said:
I am not worried, its ok if you don't want to share. There are many ways to bring down a crown(5 that I know of), just didn't know about on the one piece but after looking at the frame I can see where I can do it also. Figured you would have to address that issue at some point.
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Not that I don't want to share, it's just a lot to explain:grin:
 
sdbilliards said:
aren't they checked for crowns at the factory?
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They do, and until just lately the crowned slates were set aside, but now we have a 4 point leveling system even for crowned slates that will pull down the crown to perfectly level. I performed this conversion on a 9ft Professional with a crowned one piece slate, and I have to say it turned out perfectly level...it turned out REAL level:grin:
 
TableTek said:
Hey Guys,
Just wanted to show off one of the tricks of the trade that King Cobra went over at the Chicago seminar. Though a bottle jack was used at that time, when this was taken all I had was the scissor jack in my Express Van! As it turns out, the linear control vs hydraulic might actually work better as pressure is building in the strapping.
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Understand the whole Jack thing, but how do you secure the crown portion down, do you drill and run a couple of screws?
 
realkingcobra said:
No, you superglue the crowned slate to the flat slate, then the crowned slate will stay where you pull it down to.

Glen
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Have you ever taken a very accurate level and watched the side you anchored to see if it actually lifts up with the crown side after you glue it and release the strap or other method?
 
OTLB said:
Have you ever taken a very accurate level and watched the side you anchored to see if it actually lifts up with the crown side after you glue it and release the strap or other method?
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Yes John, over and over, you're not actually applying that much pressure to push down the crowned slate...think of it more of the seams just not matching up perfect, and if you just push down the high side...they'd be perfectly matched...that's what you're doing. Most mechanic's that don't know this trick will try to feather out the filler in the slate to try and ease the lip of the imperfect seam in cases like this...and that is wrong!

Glen
 
yes I agree, I have been monitoring my suction cups and it doesn't seam to be a problem
 

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Use the reguler superglue not gel its about $5.00 for a 2oz or 5 oz bottle... and yes you glue all the time this way the seams never pop from climate or later maybe a home owner moves the table over after you leave. By using Super Glue and bondo I have never had to back for a 5-10 minute fix again.

Craig
 
n10spool said:
Use the reguler superglue not gel its about $5.00 for a 2oz or 5 oz bottle... and yes you glue all the time this way the seams never pop from climate or later maybe a home owner moves the table over after you leave. By using Super Glue and bondo I have never had to back for a 5-10 minute fix again.

Craig
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You also glue doweled slate?
 
Depends are the slates matched and do the dowels line up? last 5 Gold Crowns i did for a pool hall the slates were not matched and had to remove the pins.

Why wouldn't you glue pinned slates? I didnt say they were crowned, warped, or differnt thicknesses.

Glued slates make it alot easier to level believe it or not plus you get extra strength at the seam incase the owner moves the table 3 years later and 4-10 friends pick it up and move it to make room for the new carpet. Think of it as insurance you drive 4 hrs to do a table why wouldn't you? It's easy to split the seam on dissasembly.

You should have gone to the seminar that Glen was holding.. alot of questions and answer would have been taking care of. I know were both busy I couldnt make it either bout I call Glenn all the time to see whats new or trade some other ideas bounce them off each other.



Craig
 
I agree that gluing slates is fine, so you still glue slates that are dowled and lined up well is what I am gathering, is that right?
 
Yes, as I'm working on a GC2 right now with pin&doweled slates....that came apart from who ever worked on them last:wink:
 
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