That's I was thinking, I like the idea but it would be too much like a rotation game, maybe rack 11 or 12 balls so there are two balls as obstacles? Random thought.
Fixing the game of 9 ball.
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That's I was thinking, I like the idea but it would be too much like a rotation game, maybe rack 11 or 12 balls so there are two balls as obstacles? Random thought.
We are not going back. I am saying that Nine-Ball has evolved miserably. It needs to change in ways that improves competition and betters the human dynamic. I have noted that you reference our sport in terms of Pros and Fans. I do not. I think pool is first and foremost a local culture and local pursuit. 99.99% of our sport is played without referees. I never think about a referee. If the game was right, the pros would not either.
Ok since we're not talking about 9 ball anymore. How about 9.1...?
-First rack = traditional rack of 10b with 9 in the middle.
-Run rack in rotation, but leave 10 last as break ball for next rack.
-Potter of the 9 (rack winner) gets to either take the break ball shot, or pass it to his opponent.
Hammer out the rest of the 'what ifs' later....
Oooh, that sounds fun. That's like Justnum's idea but adds a ball and a couple of rules to the equation.
ouch... Not sure if I should feel insulted or embarrassed...lol.
I couldn't handle the usual drivel so I used the really good ignore function a while back and subsequently missed his insight. My apologies to Justin for riding his coat tails.
The "break and run " problem noted in the original post of this thread is a clear reference to the pro game. Nine ball does not have a "break and run" problem at any other level of play -- and yes, the fans are relevant to this topic, as they are the ones to whom pro pool it is being sold.
I am not suggesting that the world of recreational amateur pool is not important, but it is not the thread topic. Nine ball on a nine foot table is not the game of the local recreational player. Eight ball, more often than not on a bar table, is the game of the recreational player, and that's very unlikely to change anytime soon. I'm not convinced that the nuances in the rules of nine ball matter at all to the mainstream recreational player and I feel the rules have little to do with whether they enjoy playing pool. Of course, that's just one man's opinion, and there's room for debate.
Duh, I can't believe I asked a question that dumb. I had just woke up from an all-nighter when I posted that,
my mind was elsewhere. Thanks for not roasting me on it. LOL
it didnt feel that way.
the players in my pool room only let me play 14.1.
i watch world class 14.1 pool
each time it reminds me why im better off promoting the game instead of playing it.
why bother with a ghost ball have them play position for the break off the 9.
this way every can see how good their position play is at the end of a rack.
i imagine all kinds of new caroms and angle are played for the 9 ball break shot
if shane had to play under these conditions its unlikely his break would dominate the game the way it did
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Stu,
You're probably the most avid watcher or Pro Pool that I know. There are 6 pages to this article if I missed it, is there a post here that says
what if any changes you would see as helpful to the game without hurting the viewing audience? I will now go back to see if I can find one but
your opinion on this would be important in my view. Then I will ask the same of Paul.
I went back and read your posts. You would tighten things up and leave the rest alone if I understand correctly.
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Paul,
There are 6 pages to this article if I missed it, is there a post here that says what if any changes you would see as helpful to the game without hurting the viewing audience? I will now go back to see if I can find one but your opinion on this would be important in my view.
Yes, Robin, that's about right. Nine ball played on difficult equipment is a very tough game. I also want to see a continuation of the strong trend toward having neutral rackers and the shot clock should be mandatory on any streamed match. Lest we forget, the lack of a shot clock in the 2019 WPA World 9-ball Championship rendered it nearly unwatchable, with several races to 11 taking over four hours.
I would be OK with a switch to ten ball if the call shot rule were removed. We see Texas Express ten ball every year at the Derby City Classic and the fans have come to love the event, known as the Bigfoot, as much as any during Derby week. Call shot, to me, was the single biggest problem in watching top level straight pool. Snooker has always done just fine without call shot, and to me, it offers evidence that as long as the equipment is set up tough, call shot isn't needed. Call shot is very fan unfriendly and doesn't play well on video.
Paul Schofield is one of the best posters on this site, and may be far more in tune with methods for keeping the game attractive to amateurs as players. I look forward to his comments.
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I agree with having the pros play on challenging tables with either tight pockets and/or 10 foot tables. However, the problem of the wing ball going in almost every time isn't fixed by either. I think some type of breaking rules need to be in place- either exactly from the foot spot or within a "break box" of some sort
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Agree. Thus why American Pool needs to foster an image as a ‘sport’ rather than a bar game to succeed at the pro level.
There is another thread on who spends at a Pool Hall. Yup, praise for everyone who drinks alcohol and eats unhealthy greasy food. Each to their own but not conducive to making Pool attractive to mom and dad finding a an activity for little Suzy. They’ll put her in figure skating and her brother in tennis.
Question is, what do you propose, have you even tried to change this sport, or just knock anyone that is trying to make a difference??
Is that just in the US though? In the UK / mainland Europe children are typically allowed in pubs with parents (there are exceptions of course, but equally some places allow under age kids in, but won't serve them alcohol) and many pool/snooker clubs allow children in before certain times without adults too.
So children do have the opportunity to play, but that doesn't necessarily mean they want to of course!
However I completely see your point, specifically within the US.