Follow through ?

[JoeyInCali]

Do you test your students' follow through length?
Should the tip go through that cue ball and get past it on the same plane , say for 4 balls past the cb at least ?

 

[Mark Avlon]

With a pendulum stroke, the length of the follow through is unique to the shooter. Their physique and stance will dictate the length of the follow through.

What I look for is that they finish their stroke. When they do, they will be at the end of their follow through.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

In addition I look to see if their finish position is consistent.

With a pendulum stroke, the length of the follow through is unique to the shooter. Their physique and stance will dictate the length of the follow through.

What I look for is that they finish their stroke. When they do, they will be at the end of their follow through.

 

[dr9ball]

Do you test your students' follow through length?
Should the tip go through that cue ball and get past it on the same plane , say for 4 balls past the cb at least ?

Mark and Tony have described what I do also.

I have seen several students that had a problem accelerating through the stroke in fact they decelerate (slow down) their cue before it makes contact with the cue ball.

 

[One Pocket John]

Mark and Tony have described what I do also.

I have seen several students that had a problem accelerating through the stroke in fact they decelerate (slow down) their cue before it makes contact with the cue ball.

I am not an instructor. But I would like to throw this out there.

Accelerating thru the cue ball is accomplished by the contraction of the bicep muscle. The bicep muscle can only be contracted so far (end of stroke - finish). The fingers on the grip hand send messages to the bicep instructing it to begin contraction and the speed of contraction to be used.

Just a thought. Thanks for the posts, there is always something to learn here.

John

 

[Ratta]

Well Joey,

there are several reasons why a student *do not followthrough*- but how far is not the real problem.
He has to setup correct and finish the stroke- How to explain this can be different on several students.
For example often it is enough to video them while executing- and after that again by just letting them shooting the cueball with a higher speed into a pocket- and from my expirience in the most cases they see immediatley themselve the difference. If they re just shooting the ball (without any objectball) into a pocket with a higher speed (4-5 is enough) they all finish nicley
There also can be several types of shot, where you would adjust a bit different. This here is just one example from my side and expirience i detected mostly with beginners or less advanced players.


lg
Ingo

 

[FranCrimi]

Joey,

First, as you know, it depends on the shot you're shooting, whether it's a nip stroke or a full-out break shot.

Second, i have learned that it can depend on what you're trying to accomplish with the shot you're shooting. Obviously, the follow through occurs after the tip strikes the cue ball, but striving for a particular follow through can affect your stroke timing, speed and even angle of attack.

So while it is the result of a stroke, it is not merely just the 'result.' I believe it is a powerful tool that a player can use to accomplish a particular type of stroke execution.

I have a few different types of follow through results that I strive for, depending on what I am trying to do with a particular shot.

I'm still in the experimental phase with this as I feel there is much more to learn.

So to answer your question. Yes, there are some paramaters that I check for with my students when they shoot certain shots. But it's not the same for every shot and it depends on what I want them to do with the shot.

 

[randyg]

Do you test your students' follow through length?
Should the tip go through that cue ball and get past it on the same plane , say for 4 balls past the cb at least ?

Test? No! But we certainly find their natural Finish Position.

The cue ball is gone in about a 16th of an inch. Our goal is to strike the cue ball with a level cue in the intended contact spot then just allow our cue stick to finish naturaly. That will probably put the cue tip pointing down slightly.

randyg

 

[JoeyInCali]

Well Joey,

there are several reasons why a student *do not followthrough*- but how far is not the real problem.
He has to setup correct and finish the stroke- How to explain this can be different on several students.
For example often it is enough to video them while executing- and after that again by just letting them shooting the cueball with a higher speed into a pocket- and from my expirience in the most cases they see immediatley themselve the difference. If they re just shooting the ball (without any objectball) into a pocket with a higher speed (4-5 is enough) they all finish nicley
There also can be several types of shot, where you would adjust a bit different. This here is just one example from my side and expirience i detected mostly with beginners or less advanced players.


lg
Ingo

Thanks Ingo.
And to all instructors who gave their view.