I have the cash. If that is what you are thinking. Posting 25 times a day doesn't mean you won't run. Also pm-ing me that you will keep the cue if you can get "an appropriate cash settlement" makes me feel, you had a little remorse and all you wanted was to get that Southwest at a cheaper price. Right from the start.
Presurring and calling the world to your opinion is really a low blow, could this not have worked out if you chose to be patient and discuss this over PM? Just cause you got your money for the repair work when you complained about that ding so quickly, you could bully me into paying you for what you want to keep? I believe this could all be settled maturely through the PM system, but you choose to blow it out, pm-ing me at 2.20am (Singapore time) and telling me that I've got until today to refund you your money, and then going on the board to report to the world at 2.40am (SGP), when I was supposed to be asleep. So I had no response time and after seeing what you had posted, I was angry and decided not to post till later when I had cooled down.
Not responding is not stalling when you are in my shoes and I was trying to find a better way to resolve this. I believe it would be hard for anyone to give a full refund after the cue has been used that much. Could anyone go back to Laurie after 3 years (cue was made in 2004) and say to her that the butt warped and you wanted a refund even though it has been played with?
Putting words in my words in my mouth and saying I will refund you was a little sneaky of you, at no time did I do that.
to make it clear, the cue was in the condition I described when I sold it, packed it and shipped it. I do not see any point to why I should misrepresent the cue and risk hard earned reputation for $2000. Thats kind of a shitty way to lose it really. No transaction is worth risking reputation for, whether it is a $10 joint protector or a $15000 Szam.
In no way was the cue misrepresented. Why would I declare that one of the shaft has a slight wobble? If there was a ding that large, would I risk not telling Hal about it, if it happened in my hands? If it was warped, could I have missed it after checking it thoroughly?
Use some common sense to think about this, before shooting your mouth off. I'm glad there are still some posters who bother to go through their own research and experience before they post what they wish to say. I do not wish to post merely from seeing that the other sellers who have made disputes always end up on the losing end or in a flame war with the buyers.
Lastly, I know you guys practice a lot of "trust" which is somehow what i've seen a lot here but that doesn't carry on when it starts to head south. I quote a member who wishes to remain annoynomous,
so if i send him the money right now, and he disappears all together with cue and cash, which one of the posters would like to make it right for me?
Since everyone's is asking to compromise, here is what I can think of, I will paypal you half ($1025), send the cue to Raemondo and after he gets it, the other half will be sent to you. I am not going anywhere either and the cue isn't leaving the US.
Presurring and calling the world to your opinion is really a low blow, could this not have worked out if you chose to be patient and discuss this over PM? Just cause you got your money for the repair work when you complained about that ding so quickly, you could bully me into paying you for what you want to keep? I believe this could all be settled maturely through the PM system, but you choose to blow it out, pm-ing me at 2.20am (Singapore time) and telling me that I've got until today to refund you your money, and then going on the board to report to the world at 2.40am (SGP), when I was supposed to be asleep. So I had no response time and after seeing what you had posted, I was angry and decided not to post till later when I had cooled down.
Not responding is not stalling when you are in my shoes and I was trying to find a better way to resolve this. I believe it would be hard for anyone to give a full refund after the cue has been used that much. Could anyone go back to Laurie after 3 years (cue was made in 2004) and say to her that the butt warped and you wanted a refund even though it has been played with?
Putting words in my words in my mouth and saying I will refund you was a little sneaky of you, at no time did I do that.
Hal said:Just to clarify:
Thingie told me before I paid for the cue that he would refund my money if I wasn't satisfied with the cue. Well guess what? I'm not satisfied.
This was on Sunday. The only other contact I've had with him was on Monday when he told me to ship the cue to Raemondo.
thingie said:I will refund you as requested, minus shipping fees, which come up to $2000 as I have paid you for the ding repair (which has not been done).
However, I can only paypal you in a day's time. I have to speak to the original owner of the cue to release the money to me before I can pay you.
to make it clear, the cue was in the condition I described when I sold it, packed it and shipped it. I do not see any point to why I should misrepresent the cue and risk hard earned reputation for $2000. Thats kind of a shitty way to lose it really. No transaction is worth risking reputation for, whether it is a $10 joint protector or a $15000 Szam.
In no way was the cue misrepresented. Why would I declare that one of the shaft has a slight wobble? If there was a ding that large, would I risk not telling Hal about it, if it happened in my hands? If it was warped, could I have missed it after checking it thoroughly?
Use some common sense to think about this, before shooting your mouth off. I'm glad there are still some posters who bother to go through their own research and experience before they post what they wish to say. I do not wish to post merely from seeing that the other sellers who have made disputes always end up on the losing end or in a flame war with the buyers.
Lastly, I know you guys practice a lot of "trust" which is somehow what i've seen a lot here but that doesn't carry on when it starts to head south. I quote a member who wishes to remain annoynomous,
It always has worked this way when you are the seller. You put the cue up for sale, Someone enters into a contract to purchase the cue. What happens? The buyer sends the payment before receiving the product. Ok, Buyer is unsatisfied. Buyer returns the product and seller refunds the payment.
That's how it's always been and how I have always seen it done. If you go to a store and purchase something then decide you want to return it what do you do? You have to return the item and then you get a refund. You don't get your money back then say here's your item.
If you go to eBay what happens? Buyer sends payment, Seller sends product. Buyer is unsatisfied? Buyer returns product and then the seller refunds the money.
Go to any major pool site, Some of the guys on here are dealers of those sites. You buy something from them, Your unsatisfied, You have to send them the product back for them to inspect then you will get a refund.
Now if it's another story and the cue was described correctly and the buyer is stating that It's in different condition then it was sent in, there's a problem. Items must be returned in the same condition as received for a refund.
We all know this stuff so how can anyone say he should refund the money first?
so if i send him the money right now, and he disappears all together with cue and cash, which one of the posters would like to make it right for me?
Since everyone's is asking to compromise, here is what I can think of, I will paypal you half ($1025), send the cue to Raemondo and after he gets it, the other half will be sent to you. I am not going anywhere either and the cue isn't leaving the US.