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Might be a good idea to practice at the pool room for a bit then, even if you have your own table. I think it's important to be able to perform on all equipment within reason.
sausage
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agreed, but i can't take the cig smoke though. the only reason i went to this pool hall is because it was early in the day and it's mainly a bar so the cig suckers were few and far away.... a 'drug-free society' we will never be.
Wity
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I thought all of the states now practiced a ban on smoking in public places as they do over here now. Apparently not?
BTW Thanks again for that 14:1 dvd Sausage. Unfortunately my local hall has bunged the two US pool tables in the storeroom in favour of more uk pool tables so my best run of 20 it seems will stay so for a while.
BTW Thanks again for that 14:1 dvd Sausage. Unfortunately my local hall has bunged the two US pool tables in the storeroom in favour of more uk pool tables so my best run of 20 it seems will stay so for a while.
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54 days and counting til the state of Wisconsin goes smoke free.
Dave Nelson
Dave Nelson
sausage
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as much as i HATE cig smoke i don't think that it's the place of gov to tell a business that they can't allow smoking. having said this; the employees of that business have a right to breath clean air. patrons can take their business elsewhere.
i remember when they allowed smoking on airplanes, of all places! as soon as the "no smoking" sign went dim, the entire cabin would be filled with toxic smoke. the flight attendents were forced to work in an unhealthy environment and everyone even children and babies were taking drugs by default.... so much for a 'drug-free' society.
i remember when they allowed smoking on airplanes, of all places! as soon as the "no smoking" sign went dim, the entire cabin would be filled with toxic smoke. the flight attendents were forced to work in an unhealthy environment and everyone even children and babies were taking drugs by default.... so much for a 'drug-free' society.
As of May 2010, 11 states have not enacted any general statewide ban on smoking in any non-government-owned spaces: Alabama, Alaska, Indiana, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Instead, laws in most of these states (see individual state listings below for further information) require proprietors of certain places to designate smoking and non-smoking areas and post warning signage.
Unique statewide smoking bans
As of May 2010, six states have enacted smoking bans in particular places that do not fit in the other categories:
* Georgia bans smoking in restaurants where persons under 18 years of age may enter, but allows most anywhere else either to designate smoking areas indoors or allow smoking freely; local governments in Georgia can and have passed stricter smoking bans than the state.
* Idaho bans smoking in restaurants, but exempt both bars (which can be 100% smoking) and small workplaces (which can have a designated smoking area); local governments in Idaho can regulate smoking more strictly than the state.
* New Hampshire bans smoking in restaurants and bars (excluding private clubs), schools, and certain common areas open to the public, but not anywhere else, and state law prohibits local governments from enacting local health-based smoking bans.
* North Carolina bans smoking in all restaurants and bars (excluding cigar bars and private clubs), as well as government buildings and vehicles, but does not regulate smoking anywhere else. Local governments may regulate smoking more strictly than the state, except in cigar bars, private clubs, tobacco shops, private residences/vehicles, designated hotel/motel smoking rooms, and theatrical performances involving smoking.
* South Dakota generally bans smoking in all enclosed workplaces, but exempts all bars, restaurants, retail tobacco stores, hotel/motel rooms, liquor stores, and casino gaming floors. The South Dakota law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state.
* In Virginia, smoking is banned in schools, state offices and certain healthcare facilities and common areas, but not anywhere else; in restaurants (including bars), smoking is relegated to separately-ventilated designated smoking rooms. The state law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state.
So not everyone has enacted state wide bans, and some still exempt nightclubs and bars. A lot of major cities still do this including Atlanta Ga. I myself smoke but I also feel people have the right to not be around smoking if they wish. So when I am at the local pool hall I simply go outside if I have to smoke. To me it is just a matter of respecting other people.
Matt;
About 5 years ago I had my choice of 5 pool rooms in the south suburban metro Mpls area, now only 2 exist. But I have to add that other factors such as local business economy, and lack of indivdual expendable income also contribute to the pool room closings.
-Dennis
sausage
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my pleasure. glad that they finally got there. get thee on craigslist and find a good used table.
sausage
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what sucks is lung cancer. the druggies are just going to have to get their fix outside.
what's odd is that gov encourages cig sucking but has zero tolerance policies for pot. our nation is run by imbeciles.
Wity
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I think it's great that some states have gone along the route of seperate smoking rooms as it appears to me that the majority of even the non smokers believe thats the right aproach no matter what country they live in.
Members of parliment over here opted for the blanket lets win votes and have a complete ban as they dont give a monkeys personally. The bar in the house of commons is technically a part of her majestys residence and as such smoking is allowed along with the tax free booze.
In a 5 mile radius of my home i can name 20 pubs at least that have closed blaming the ban in the last 12 months. Half of them have been knocked down and houses built on the land including a couple that were only built in the 70's. A few more have kept there doors open by selling off the bulk of their car park land to house builders and more and more landlords are allowing customers to drink and smoke in a room legally being the landlords personal accomendation but as yet no snooker places have actually closed.
Members of parliment over here opted for the blanket lets win votes and have a complete ban as they dont give a monkeys personally. The bar in the house of commons is technically a part of her majestys residence and as such smoking is allowed along with the tax free booze.
In a 5 mile radius of my home i can name 20 pubs at least that have closed blaming the ban in the last 12 months. Half of them have been knocked down and houses built on the land including a couple that were only built in the 70's. A few more have kept there doors open by selling off the bulk of their car park land to house builders and more and more landlords are allowing customers to drink and smoke in a room legally being the landlords personal accomendation but as yet no snooker places have actually closed.
They can blame it all they want, but that doesn't mean they are right. General economic conditions are going to have a much greater effect on businesses.
I live in the DE/PA/NJ area and we have had the ban for quite awhile now. People have adapted and life goes on.
Wity
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British smokers who have at a guess accounted for 75% of pub regulars before the ban here have adapted alright... to buying beer in the supermarkets and drinking at home as few want to pay 3 times as much for a pint in a pub only to stand outside to enjoy it with a fag.
Economic climate has had next to nothing to do with it, hell new pubs were opening up at a quicker rate when we had the 3 day week.than they are closing now.
Economic climate has had next to nothing to do with it, hell new pubs were opening up at a quicker rate when we had the 3 day week.than they are closing now.
Yep, it was the damn smoking bans that wrecked the economy in all those countries. If we could still smoke anywhere, housing would still be going up 25% a year and we could all live off the fat of the land, Greece could have 100% public employment and nobody would have any cares or responsibilities. Toto and I miss the good old days.
Americas biggest export for over 100 years was tobacco. It's hard to overturn laws and societal traditions that go back almost 400 years but within 25 years it will be hard to find any public place where smoking will be allowed. In the meantime we will just send the high quality nicotine rich American tobacco to those third world countries who need our help.
Americas biggest export for over 100 years was tobacco. It's hard to overturn laws and societal traditions that go back almost 400 years but within 25 years it will be hard to find any public place where smoking will be allowed. In the meantime we will just send the high quality nicotine rich American tobacco to those third world countries who need our help.
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In my local De town every bar closed. We have a Moose an American Legion and a VFW all "private clubs" (seems anyone can join so they aren't really private) which permit smoking. They all see great business and they smoke them if they have them. A lot of good places to shoot pool went out of business. Now we're stuck with the shit tables at the Moose
I'm a non smoker who also believe a business owner has the right to run his business as he sees fit. The market and patronage will determine who stays in business, not the gov't
For nearly all of my 83 years it has been taken for granted that smokers have the right to light up and spew their poison into the air that others must breath anytime, anyplace. Why? Money and the power of advertising. Now that unright right is being challenged. About time. The owner of the room I use most, a non smoker, is looking forward to the ban as much as I am. July 5th here in Wisconsin. I really doubt that it will hurt his business.
Dave Nelson
Dave Nelson