For Sale Jerry Franklin Merry Widow for Sale

Soulcoma said:
its quite obvious the seller is out to scam.

There is absolutely no reason to avoid escrow. Especially, in this situation of both sides not feeling comfortable.

The fact that he just repeats the fact hes been here for 5 years and have been selling and trading is irrelevant.

Escrow is like $100 or something. shipping like $50 tops. split the costs 50/50 and both caulk up the loss as personal gain. end of story.

There is nothing else to add, or discuss. if the buyer will not agree to such things its obvious what he is and is trying to do. He should be IP Banned from the site. so as to not have this happen anymore.
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This is AGAIN not your concern, and based on your riduculous comments i will put you on the list of people not to sell to, as it is not worth the TROUBLE.

As far as your comment about me scamming, i am no scammer, the buyer of the SW is Unreasonable...

END OF STORY..
 
Soulcoma said:
its quite obvious the seller is out to scam.

There is absolutely no reason to avoid escrow. Especially, in this situation of both sides not feeling comfortable.

The fact that he just repeats the fact hes been here for 5 years and have been selling and trading is irrelevant.

Escrow is like $100 or something. shipping like $50 tops. split the costs 50/50 and both caulk up the loss as personal gain. end of story.

There is nothing else to add, or discuss. if the buyer will not agree to such things its obvious what he is and is trying to do. He should be IP Banned from the site. so as to not have this happen anymore.
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"half fast bankr" even offered free Escrow for us but the seller still did not accept. So obvious that the seller would not do anything to make it right.
 
i offered more than once to refund you, you had no problem sending me a cashiers check, so why wouldnt you send the cue back, isn't that how business works?

You said to remidy the situation you wanted a larger shaft, i found one and told you i would send you the one i found after you returned the smaller one, what was your answer to that email? " maybe you don't understand, i want the 3rd shaft for FREE as compensation" so if anyone needs to see that email, i would be happy to post it.

for the record, i never touched the cue and was trying to help a friend out, he took pics, and told me the description, and HE SHIPPED THE CUE, not me. My name is no where on the mail label, i was just trying to help him out.

I will still stand behind the decision to replace the shaft if you send the smaller one back.

Chris
 
singernak said:
This is AGAIN not your concern, and based on your riduculous comments i will put you on the list of people not to sell to, as it is not worth the TROUBLE.

As far as your comment about me scamming, i am no scammer, the buyer of the SW is Unreasonable...

END OF STORY..
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This is everyone's concern. You're trying to scam one of our own here, so that makes it everyone's business. The trouble is not us, it's you...LOL

You suck to not make things right, free escrow and you still say no?

So what you've been selling here for 5 years, I'm pretty sure no will be doing business with you from now on.
 
I think your the one who sucks for your last post! i offered a remedy, it was refused, nothing more i can do, and i am sure i have made enough transactions that people will see right thru all the Bullshit!
 
singernak said:
I think your the one who sucks for your last post! i offered a remedy, it was refused, nothing more i can do, and i am sure i have made enough transactions that people will see right thru all the Bullshit!
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Free escrow? What do you have to lose? I'll tell you...the money! Then you will be stuck with a cue that no one here will buy.

You simply do not want to return the money, and for that you suck big time...worse than the NY Mets.
 
Black and White!

If the seller refuses the offer for a free escrow in this situation he is obviously not interested in anything but keeping the money.. At this point there is nothing more to discuss except how we should ALL avoid this seller and hopefully it will end here..He is not interested in a resolution..Period! I will avoid Singernak as a buyer or a seller..
 
You're not a business, you're a private seller. Escrow protects both sides of a private sale.

If he sends you the cue back, he's at YOUR mercy, so escrow protects him. If you send the check directly to him, you're at HIS mercy, so escrow protects you. This is a service being offered for FREE to resolve this situation created by YOUR shortcomings (failure to accurately describe items).

Do you really need it stated that simply to understand? Just because you've been here for 5 years doesn't mean a whole lot. Your iTrader is enough to turn me away, that's for sure. You wouldn't be the first person to turn into a crappy businessman after years of a good reputation.
 
If the seller refuses the offer for a free escrow in this situation he is obviously not interested in anything but keeping the money.. At this point there is nothing more to discuss except how we should ALL avoid this seller and hopefully it will end here..He is not interested in a resolution..Period! I will avoid Singernak as a buyer or a seller..
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Couldn't agree more
 
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=236454&page=3&highlight=carmeli

I am done trying to help you Embassy, and if a few people here feel like i am a bad guy, and don't want to do business with me, thats the cost of business as you can please everyone all the time.

I am continuing to receive positive itrader feedback, and will continue to do so, i tried to help a friend out, and even though he sold his cue and got the money for it, i am to blame?

I cannot refund you and take a $$ loss, as in the end it was not my cue and i recevied no monatary reward for selling it.

I offered to replace the smaller shaft, as that to me is the right thing to do, but your comments that i am a scammer, and this was a scam have completely turned me off, and i am done with you and any future dealings!!

I will summarize, The lesson here is to "never sell cues for friends again"


Regards
 
No the lesson here is to accurately describe what your selling. And if you offer a money back garrantee then you hould honor it.

Not using Escrow is just plain stubborn, stupid, immature, and petty. Esspecially, after its been offered for free. Even though the buyer agreed to split the cost whbich is more than fair to solve this simple problem.

You are the worse businessman ever.
 
singernak said:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=236454&page=3&highlight=carmeli

I am done trying to help you Embassy, and if a few people here feel like i am a bad guy, and don't want to do business with me, thats the cost of business as you can please everyone all the time.

I am continuing to receive positive itrader feedback, and will continue to do so, i tried to help a friend out, and even though he sold his cue and got the money for it, i am to blame?

I cannot refund you and take a $$ loss, as in the end it was not my cue and i recevied no monatary reward for selling it.

I offered to replace the smaller shaft, as that to me is the right thing to do, but your comments that i am a scammer, and this was a scam have completely turned me off, and i am done with you and any future dealings!!

I will summarize, The lesson here is to "never sell cues for friends again"


Regards
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And just exactly why is any of this crap Embassy's problem? You misrepresented the cue. You have failed to remedy the problem by acting unreasonable.

He should sue fully into bankruptcy.

Ken
 
LOL Bankruptcy thats funny, i offered to replace the shaft as he requested, then he said he wanted it as the 3rd shaft thats where the confusion started.

I don't have a SW shaft to give him if he doesn't return the other one. This was a friends cue, i am just trying to make it right, but obviously since my friend is not cooperating to give him a refund, i am not sure what to do besides replace the shaft, and if thats not good enough then i guess he can keep both shafts, i am offering a compromise, so no one can say i didn't try.

Chris
 
Excuse me????

I don't give a rat's azz about whose cue it is. YOU DESCRIBED IT, SOLD IT and YOU need to honor the refund. It is on YOU to get the money back from your friend. BTW, what kind of friend would leave his/her friend in a situation like you are in? Not a real good one IMO. You sold it/you own it/you honor it. It is a shame that you feel that the cost of business should come at a buyer's expense. This shows what kind of character and heart you have to the entire community. I can only hope that what goes around comes around at 2x the headache. Good luck with selling much here on AZB in the future, I think you are in for a rude awakening.
 
Under the law, you are an undisclosed agent. Therefore this debacle rests totally on your shoulders. Yeah, and you have properly summed up the situation, don't trust a friend when it comes to money.

You need to refund the total purchase price on the cue, and do what you can to recoup your loss. Unfortunately, probably not here with this cue.

And yeah, obviously refunding him the cue seems to be a financial strain for you, otherwise you would have done it to preserve your reputation.

Ken
 
Below is my post and the seller's reply in his other thread. I am on my own now. I can't believe we have that kind of people on AZ and he is still selling things here. My loss is certified. I hope that my loss can save you guys hard earned money. Anyone who wants to deal with singernak should think twice and take extreme precaution.:angry::angry::angry:

Yesterday, 08:26 PM

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Thanks for your comments. What the seller should do is to refund the full payment to me or replace the cue with another Franklin SW Satin with two reasonably straight full shafts. Replacing the straighter orignal Franklin SW shaft by another SW shaft is just RIDICULOUS. That means I will have a Franklin Satin butt with a warped original shaft at 12.4mm and an unmatched used SW shafts. I bought the cue because it was described as a Franklin SW with two full shafts, one is straight and one has slight roll. And that is the cue l paid for. What I have here is a Franklin SW with two 12.4mm shafts, one with slight roll and one is warped. Seller has declined to use escrow for refund even it is free. This is absolutely SCAM.




Today, 03:46 AM

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I am done trying to help you Embassy, and if a few people here feel like i am a bad guy, and don't want to do business with me, thats the cost of business as you can please everyone all the time.

I am continuing to receive positive itrader feedback, and will continue to do so, i tried to help a friend out, and even though he sold his cue and got the money for it, i am to blame?

I cannot refund you and take a $$ loss, as in the end it was not my cue and i recevied no monatary reward for selling it.

I offered to replace the smaller shaft, as that to me is the right thing to do, but your comments that i am a scammer, and this was a scam have completely turned me off, and i am done with you and any future dealings!!

I will summarize, The lesson here is to "never sell cues for friends again"


Regards
 
This is a bad deal....I can only hope that karma will kick in big time here. I don't understand why this guy is still alowed to sell on this forum. Maybe the powers to be should consider a $ amount for banning dishonest members. Or at least banning until this issue is resolved.
 
SC02GTP said:
This is a bad deal....I can only hope that karma will kick in big time here. I don't understand why this guy is still alowed to sell on this forum. Maybe the powers to be should consider a $ amount for banning dishonest members. Or at least banning until this issue is resolved.
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Good point. Any dishonest seller should be banned.
 
The problem as I see it is there needs to be a way of giving the whole forum a "Heads Up" about these guys with scrupulous selling tactics other than the off chance that they will read these threads..I am certain that everyone doesn't read them which is why he is still doing business among us..NOT GOOD! Apparently the Itrader is not working because he is green again which is beyond me how that happened..
 
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^^^ A Scarlet letter by their name, lol.

Obviously, we may not know ALL the details, but the story seems pretty open thusfar.
And, I have NEVER seen anyone fight so hard to defend screwwing someone else, especially in such an open forum. Classless, shameless.

It's a shame these two were not in close enough locations to each other as to just sit down and undo the deal. And for whatever seller 'situation' may be with 'friend' (whom prolly sold it for less than seller), it's OBVIOUS the only one who got shafted here was embassy147. For whatever it's worth, my free escrow offer to resolve this remains open.

Best of luck to all, and happy 4th of July.
 
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