Foul called on a miscue

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Mole Eye

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Ok, watching Kelly Fisher and a player from Taiwan whose name I don't know at the Amway Cup. Kelly is up 6-5, and miscues shooting the 5, cue ball jumps and hits the 5, but does not leave the table. Official calls a foul. It obviously is not intentional, so can someone explain this call to me other than home cooking?
 
Mole Eye said:
Ok, watching Kelly Fisher and a player from Taiwan whose name I don't know at the Amway Cup. Kelly is up 6-5, and miscues shooting the 5, cue ball jumps and hits the 5, but does not leave the table. Official calls a foul. It obviously is not intentional, so can someone explain this call to me other than home cooking?
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Did her cue hit CB a second time while airborne? Without seeing the shot its hard to make a call. If she just miscued and made a legal hit it sounds like a bad call. Post a clip?
 
I'm at a loss as to how to post clips, but it is on Youtube, this mornings match at the 1 hour 44 minute mark. .
 
Ref called foul and told Kelly CB touch ferrule.
Not really an issue as the CB went in the pocket anyway.
 
All this and the cue ball went into a pocket anyway???

I just wasted 38 seconds of my life. :thumbup:

Maniac
 
garczar said:
Did her cue hit CB a second time while airborne? Without seeing the shot its hard to make a call. If she just miscued and made a legal hit it sounds like a bad call. Post a clip?
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Also, if the cue ball or the object ball did not hit a rail after contact, then it would be a foul. The miscue itself should not be a foul though, just so it (and not a double hit, like you mentioned it might have been) was a good hit on the object ball, and something hit a rail after contact with the object ball.
 
JazzboxBlues said:
I haven't seen the match but my guess would be jumping the cue ball with below center hit.
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Oh, yeah, I did not think about a scoop shot (like an illegal jump shot). Yeah, that would be considered a foul too. I actually seen a player do a scoop jump in a tournament in the past, and his opponent did not call a foul on him (unbelievable).
 
Miscues are normally condoned even though many miscues involve ferrule-ball contact. Some miscues don't have ferrule-ball contact. Unless it can be clearly seen, the extra contact is not treated as a foul.

However, any intentional miscue is a foul and unsportsmanlike conduct.
 
garczar said:
No s^*t! OP never said whitey went in too.
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Yeah, if that is what happened, then what was the point in starting the thread? Sounds like maybe it would have been a good hit (and no foul called), if she had not scratched. I am confused. Why would the ref even need to mention a bad hit, if she scratched anyways?
 
Bob Jewett said:
Miscues are normally condoned even though many miscues involve ferrule-ball contact. Some miscues don't have ferrule-ball contact. Unless it can be clearly seen, the extra contact is not treated as a foul.

However, any intentional miscue is a foul and unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Good post, but I still wonder why the ref even needed to call a foul on the miscue (ferrule touching the cue ball), if the player scratched anyways (after the miscue)? Makes no sense to me.
 
justinb386 said:
Good post, but I still wonder why the ref even needed to call a foul on the miscue (ferrule touching the cue ball), if the player scratched anyways (after the miscue)? Makes no sense to me.
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Its possible he called it prior to the ball falling in.
 
I apologize, didn't see the scratch. That explains it. Thanks for the replies, and sorry about that 38 seconds.
 
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