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I don't need anything and I really think you should explain yourself.I hope that Black is real.Please no one involve paypal and mess up raffles for everyone becuse of one griddy man. I shouldn't say that since he hasn't even tried to explain himself.
 
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I don't need anything either, TAS i've supported alot of your raffles man, I don't think any accessories will put my mind at ease to be able to join any of you raffles. Take care and enjoy everyone's hard earned $$$!!!
 
Thats why i pulled out of it. Im not gambling my money on whether it is or not. tas is sitting on just under $1300 in this Black Raffle. Maybe if its fake, he will give everyone in the raffle a towel or something.

Carl
 
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tasaddicts,

I don't want anything from you. You have not apologized nor admitted that what you did was wrong. You decieved people and took their money. I haven't done math or research but im sure that you have taken thousands for fake products. And you offer me these trinkets in a feeble attempt at pacifying those that you lied to.

Imagine if Bernie Madoff tried to buy people some girl scout cookies after he was called out.

Anyway, Please refund my $$ for the Richard Black cue raffle AND if you feel so inclined, refund all of my money that I have ever sent you since it was requested under false pretense and the ads were posted with the intention of withholding vital information about the product and decieving the buyers.

Carl

I don't need anything and I really think you should explain yourself.I hope that Black is real.Please no one involve paypal and mess up raffles for everyone becuse of one griddy man. I shouldn't say that since he hasn't even tried to explain himself.

I don't need anything either, TAS i've supported alot of your raffles man, I don't think any accessories will put my mind at ease to be able to join any of you raffles. Take care and enjoy everyone's hard earned $$$!!!

Nice to see that you guys have some integrity.

I think I bought one spot in Tas's case raffles, so I don't qualify for a chalk holder.:( Something just didn't seem right to me about all his case raffles.

I also agree with Tommie about keeping Paypal out of this. That could cause a big mess for others.
 
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I think an apology for the deception is at a bare minimum due and the refunding of actual cash would be fair compensation for what you tried to pull. Now that might be a beginning to saving face and being able to continue with raffling. I also don't appreciate the party favors you're trying to pawn off as compensation for what you did. This with or especially without any real accepting of responsibility for your actions is poorly played on your part.

If you decide to refund the monies invested in your raffles to those of us who would feel that fair, I'm sure you have our paypal accounts to send to and if you need more info feel free to PM me.
 
well ...im in for over $150 on his raffles and would also like money back in return ... and no these happymeal toys will not replace that ... but for some reason i don't see me getting my money back ... and would very much apreciate an apology of sorts ... but no matter who it is giving away something for free... im always in on that ... even if i payed for all the free things he is giving away
 
I understand

well ...im in for over $150 on his raffles and would also like money back in return ... and no these happymeal toys will not replace that ... but for some reason i don't see me getting my money back ... and would very much apreciate an apology of sorts ... but no matter who it is giving away something for free... im always in on that ... even if i payed for all the free things he is giving away

I completely understand all of you guys trying to get a little something from him in return for being lied to, however, I kinda feel that if I accept these trinkets I am saying that this is an acceptable way to apologize for what he had done. Which I thoroughly disagree with. I would have MUCH rather read a long, well written post apologizing for what was done, explaining why it was done, and just an all out heartfelt apology. I haven't even seen anything that would indicate that he knows what he did was wrong.

This is the type of guy that would sell someone in Kansas Volcano Insurance. He doesn't care about any of us, all he cares about is how fat he can make his bank account before he gets caught, banned, and loses business. Then he will try to move on to somewhere else and cheat people. The fact that people are still supporting his raffles (i.e. Richard Black Cue) distrubs me greatly. Here is a seller who knowingly sold AZ members fake products under false pretense and he is still getting your money. I hope and pray that who ever wins that cue, it turns out to be real. I personally emailed Mr. Richard Black and he said that he could not confirm via the pictures if it was authentic or not. He warned to be careful because he has been tracking a lot of sellers of his cues that will post real pictures, then send a fake cue. He said if the seller is selling the cue for that much under his normal value, be wary. His cues sell from $1800 and up.

I can't express through postings how much this whole event bothers me and how much the lack of response and outrage bothers me even more. People on these forums blow up on someone for simple infractions of civility and here is a guy who stole from a lot of members, and yet, maybe 4-5 of us are outraged and speaking out.

I would like to think that while still a newer member to AZ, I am decently respected and I don't really have any enemies. I do not attack anyone personally and I do not intentionally stir up controversary. This guy needs to be ousted from our team. I view all members on AZ as having some sort of viable input and I respect that because we all have a common interest. When the wolf takes off his sheep costume, its time to shoot him in the face. tasaddicts took off his sheep costume and showed his true intentions of decieving, lying, and ripping off other AZ members.

Carl
 
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I wanted to let tsaddicts know that I recieved my case that I won. I was the person that brought this to John Bartons attention when I looked at the pics on the raffle I could tell something was off being a owner of two sterling j flower tribute cases you can tell the difference. I am sending my case to John so he will have first hand knowledge of the counterfeit case in his picture on his blog. I want to say that John Barton is one stand up person and his work is great. Tsaddicts you have defrauded all and you can keep your 9ball towel because it would probably come in as a 16 ball and here is a pic of the crappy shipping job




I just want to be clear that I am the one that turned you in for this tsaddicts you should refund all payments made to you and keep your trinkets you should not be in the billiard community if you couldn't tell these are fakes and you pack and ship like s---
9ballzz
Here is my response
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