Freezing spotted balls to the Cue Ball

3andstop

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For as long as I can remember we have always played that when spotting an object ball, should the cue ball be along the line of spotted balls, you cannot freeze an object ball to the cue ball in the same manner you would if another object ball was in the spotting line area.

Does anyone know if this is indeed a rule? How do you all play it?
 
3andstop said:
For as long as I can remember we have always played that when spotting an object ball, should the cue ball be along the line of spotted balls, you cannot freeze an object ball to the cue ball in the same manner you would if another object ball was in the spotting line area.

Does anyone know if this is indeed a rule? How do you all play it?
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Yes it is a rule and I have always played that way.
 
Thanks for the replies, we seem to all play the same, but I can't find anything about it specifically in the BCA rules unless I missed something. In fact it doesn't even specifically say "TO" freeze object balls. :confused:
 
I didn't see it spelled out either but maybe this will help:

.16.1 CUE BALL FOULS ONLY
When a referee is presiding over a match, it is a foul for a player to touch any ball (cue ball or object ball) with the cue, clothing, body, mechanical bridge or chalk, before, during or after a shot. However, when a referee is not presiding over a game, it is not a foul to accidentally touch stationary balls located between the cue ball and the shooter while in the act of shooting. If such an accident occurs, the player should allow the Tournament Director to restore the object balls to their correct positions. If the player does not allow such a restoration, and a ball set in motion as a normal part of the shot touches such an unrestored ball, or passes partly into a region originally occupied by a disturbed ball, the shot is a foul. In short, if the accident has any effect on the outcome of the shot, it is a foul. In any case, the Tournament Director must be called upon to restore the positions of the disturbed balls as soon as possible, but not during the shot. It is a foul to play another shot before the Tournament Director has restored any accidentally moved balls. At the non-shooting player?s option, the disturbed balls will be left in their new positions. In this case, the balls are considered restored, and subsequent contact on them is not a foul. It is still a foul to make any contact with the cue ball whatsoever while it is in play, except for the normal tip-to-ball contact during a shot.
 
I dunno ... It wouldn't be in play while you were spotting it, or rather an object ball next to it. :(
 
3andstop said:
I dunno ... It wouldn't be in play while you were spotting it, or rather an object ball next to it. :(
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It's always in play until the game is over. Do you think it's a foul if you drop a piece of chalk on the cueball while surveying the table? I believe it is. And a rule used to outline the fact about spotting any ball near the cue ball but I couldn't find it either. So this was the closest I found.

Others may have a different slant on this issue, so let's here from them.

Dave
 
3andstop said:
Thanks for the replies, we seem to all play the same, but I can't find anything about it specifically in the BCA rules unless I missed something. In fact it doesn't even specifically say "TO" freeze object balls. :confused:
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You may want to look at the current WPA ( www.wpa-pool.com ) rules which were changed as of January 1st. The BCA accepts the WPA rules, and I believe that the BCA now has a copy of the new rules on the BCA web site -- but the WPA is the rules authority. Here is the pertinent section:

1.4 Spotting Balls
Balls are spotted (returned to play on the table) by placing them on the long string (long axis of the table) as close as possible to the foot spot and between the foot spot and the foot rail, without moving any interfering ball. If the spotted ball cannot be placed on the foot spot, it should be placed in contact (if possible) with the corresponding interfering ball. However, when the cue ball is next to the spotted ball, the spotted ball should not be placed in contact with the cue ball; a small separation must be maintained. If all of the long string below the foot spot is blocked by other balls, the ball is spotted above the foot spot, and as close as possible to the foot spot.​
 
12squared said:
... It is still a foul to make any contact with the cue ball whatsoever while it is in play, except for the normal tip-to-ball contact during a shot. [/SIZE][/B]
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True, but any object ball will be spotted by the referee or someone acting as the referee. The referee is not normally penalized for fouls.
 
Bob Jewett said:
True, but any object ball will be spotted by the referee or someone acting as the referee. The referee is not normally penalized for fouls.
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Those damn referees :). Hi Bob.
 
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