Frickin live streaming pool...

Celtic

Celtic

AZB's own 8-ball jihadist
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I dont know how you all have it working so well. On a 512 DSL connection I get constant buffering and reconnecting with flashes of about 1 second of video and sound every 10 minutes. Bloody depressing.
 
Same thing here, I have DSL. I think it's because so many people were watching at the same time. Now if you go to that link it's running perfectly fine showing the bike races. Grrrr watching Basavich put me in a bad, impatient mood.
 
It's not about your connection speed, it's about how much bandwidth ESPN (or this website) has reserved for the watchers. I have at least a 10MB (or something, fastest around anyway) connection here at work & university and the stream is constantly buffering.

And a short sidenote, 512 connection isn't enough for a good quality video stream. 512 kbps speed equals only 64kB/s (max) which doesn't give a good picture quality. But as I said, the problem isn't your/our bandwidth, the more people tune in, the less data will be sent to each watcher. I'd much rather watch grainy low bandwidth fluent video than good quality always-buffering slow video. Sigh...
 
Try speeding up your connection with this free software:

Whether you use a modem or broadband, you'll get a faster connection if you tweak your connection's TCP parameters. Among the most important of these is MaxMTU which, in simple terms, needs to be set to the largest value possible without your data being broken up into smaller chunks en-route. Most techies determine MaxMTU by trial and error pinging using different packet sizes but it's a tedious procedure and definitely not for beginners. TCPOptimizer from SpeedGuide.net is a free utility that will do the job for you automatically. Furthermore, it will use this value to advise you on your other TCP settings and then apply these values at the press of the button. There are commercial programs that will do much the same thing but TCPOptimizer does it just as well and is totally free. The only minus is the lack of in-program help. However you'll find a useful FAQ at the SpeedGuide site. (225KB)
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in.php?category=100
 
First come first serve..

Does it give a better reception to a person who logs in earlier? Do you get less buffering? Or it does not matter, as long as the server reach an x amount of "viewers" it would start buffering alot?

Too bad for me, I just subscribe to DSL, but because it was Friday Night and being a long weekend I doubt it if I would be able to setup my new connection before the WPC Finals. I hope they would to re-runs on the internet.
 
The congestion isn't located at viewers connection, it's in the web server which obviously has restrictions. More people watching, less bandwidth to offer. I think the web server has been configurated in a way that some people will get a good quality with decent framerate and the rest will share the narrow bandwidth which doesn't leave much quality to the stream. That's why some people are able to watch it nice and smooth and some people are suffering from constant buffering and other difficulties.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Try speeding up your connection with this free software:

Whether you use a modem or broadband, you'll get a faster connection if you tweak your connection's TCP parameters. Among the most important of these is MaxMTU which, in simple terms, needs to be set to the largest value possible without your data being broken up into smaller chunks en-route. Most techies determine MaxMTU by trial and error pinging using different packet sizes but it's a tedious procedure and definitely not for beginners. TCPOptimizer from SpeedGuide.net is a free utility that will do the job for you automatically. Furthermore, it will use this value to advise you on your other TCP settings and then apply these values at the press of the button. There are commercial programs that will do much the same thing but TCPOptimizer does it just as well and is totally free. The only minus is the lack of in-program help. However you'll find a useful FAQ at the SpeedGuide site. (225KB)
http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php
http://www.speedguide.net/faq_in.php?category=100
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I d/l'd it, ran it, Optimized my settings and there is absolutely no difference in the streaming. Now i have more useless crap cluttering up my HD. Don't anyone get their hopes up with this thing but thanks for trying Colin.
 
mjantti said:
The congestion isn't located at viewers connection, it's in the web server which obviously has restrictions. More people watching, less bandwidth to offer. I think the web server has been configurated in a way that some people will get a good quality with decent framerate and the rest will share the narrow bandwidth which doesn't leave much quality to the stream. That's why some people are able to watch it nice and smooth and some people are suffering from constant buffering and other difficulties.
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I agree, none of the performance issues are related to individual Internet subscriber lines (other than possibly the source server).

It's a darned shame that all of the Internet carriers don't support Multicast ... it fixes these problems nicely ... maybe in a few years it will be more common ... it better be if people want reasonable video broaadcasts over the Internet.

I recall the Director of IT at the Jet Propulsion Lab give a keynote address at a dinner where he said (my paraphrasing) 'we'll never put real-time data streams on ethernet / IP networks'. The issues people have with the WPC are why he said that. It's a round peg in a square hole today.

Dave
 
Nostroke said:
I d/l'd it, ran it, Optimized my settings and there is absolutely no difference in the streaming. Now i have more useless crap cluttering up my HD. Don't anyone get their hopes up with this thing but thanks for trying Colin.
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My advice is to uninstall the app. TCP/IP stacks take care of most of this stuff automatically, especially in more modern versions of Windows and for always in Unix. This is because the optimal settings can change depending on where you connect (WPC vs Google vs Some-Russion-Filesharesite).

Dave
 
DaveK said:
My advice is to uninstall the app. TCP/IP stacks take care of most of this stuff automatically, especially in more modern versions of Windows and for always in Unix. This is because the optimal settings can change depending on where you connect (WPC vs Google vs Some-Russion-Filesharesite).

Dave
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I couldnt find a way to uninstall it so i just deleted it-hope it doesnt do any harm
 
DaveK said:
I agree, none of the performance issues are related to individual Internet subscriber lines (other than possibly the source server).

It's a darned shame that all of the Internet carriers don't support Multicast ... it fixes these problems nicely ... maybe in a few years it will be more common ... it better be if people want reasonable video broaadcasts over the Internet.

I recall the Director of IT at the Jet Propulsion Lab give a keynote address at a dinner where he said (my paraphrasing) 'we'll never put real-time data streams on ethernet / IP networks'. The issues people have with the WPC are why he said that. It's a round peg in a square hole today.

Dave
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Well said Dave. Totally agree. The company I work for has this well planned. We do alot of real-time data, video streaming, video and voice conf calls for our clients. They just love the technology, but it's not cheap. :)
 
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