Frost vs. Sigel

Jimmy M.

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Does anyone know if this match took place? I heard a lot about it but never heard that it actually happened.
 
I heard.

Jimmy M. said:
Does anyone know if this match took place? I heard a lot about it but never heard that it actually happened.

I didnt see it, but they where really going back and forth between each other. I think Scott smelled the money. I did hear with my own two ears, mike telling Scott on Friday no, but saying he would play on sat or sunday. Scott was giving him a hard time. I would really like to see them play some 14.1 more then anything else.

Mack
 
I don't think Frost would want to play him any 14.1. Probably trying to get him locked up in 1P, or 8ball, which is no gimme from one of the worlds all time greats!

G.
 
Since no one replied with a definite answer, I guess it's probably safe to assume it never happened. I figure people would have been posting about it by now if they had played.
 
Jimmy M. said:
Since no one replied with a definite answer, I guess it's probably safe to assume it never happened. I figure people would have been posting about it by now if they had played.

Nope. I don't think it happened. I recal hearing Mike say under his breath that Scott "could not even spell one-pocket".

I think that was the game Scott was trying to get.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I recal hearing Mike say under his breath that Scott "could not even spell one-pocket".

I heard the same thing from someone else who was standing right there. I was really hoping they would have played.
 
Jimmy M. said:
I heard the same thing from someone else who was standing right there. I was really hoping they would have played.

These people must be living under a rock or something if they don't know Frost plays jamup onepocket. Sounds like bs woofing to me.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Nope. I don't think it happened. I recal hearing Mike say under his breath that Scott "could not even spell one-pocket".

I think that was the game Scott was trying to get.

That seems a little "chickenish" for Sigel to make a statement like that and not back it up. Of course, there may be politics involved with him gambling at an IPT event? Even so, if he is the "chosen one" of the IPT then he probably shouldn't make remarks like that if he isn't going to step into the ring and back them up.
 
jingle said:
That seems a little "chickenish" for Sigel to make a statement like that and not back it up. Of course, there may be politics involved with him gambling at an IPT event? Even so, if he is the "chosen one" of the IPT then he probably shouldn't make remarks like that if he isn't going to step into the ring and back them up.

There is just one problem here. I admire Scott's barking at Sigel. Sigel was there to do a job though - and that was to play challenge matches to promote the IPT. I am sure Scott doesn't understand that as he has not yet been in Sigel's position as a proven dominant champion who is the poster player for a mulit-million dollar tour.

Scott is definitely well known for his one-pocket prowess. And I am sure he would love to get Mike in a game. Mike probably wouldn't like it. Then again, Mike has played in plenty of high stakes matchups himself so maybe Scott might not like it. I suggest Scott try and get Mike to play some time when Mike isn't "at work" and Scott isn't the guy on the outside trying to get in.

John
 
Good suggestion ...

onepocketchump said:
There is just one problem here. I admire Scott's barking at Sigel. Sigel was there to do a job though - and that was to play challenge matches to promote the IPT. I am sure Scott doesn't understand that as he has not yet been in Sigel's position as a proven dominant champion who is the poster player for a mulit-million dollar tour.

Scott is definitely well known for his one-pocket prowess. And I am sure he would love to get Mike in a game. Mike probably wouldn't like it. Then again, Mike has played in plenty of high stakes matchups himself so maybe Scott might not like it. I suggest Scott try and get Mike to play some time when Mike isn't "at work" and Scott isn't the guy on the outside trying to get in.

John

John, but I'll take Scott in 1 pocket and 14.1
and Mike in 8 and 9 ball ..... lol
 
You know, I might have to take Sigel in an all around aginst Frost. Mike has as much, or more road experience, just as much bark, and won't let himself get into a bad game......

G.
 
onepocketchump said:
There is just one problem here. I admire Scott's barking at Sigel. Sigel was there to do a job though - and that was to play challenge matches to promote the IPT. I am sure Scott doesn't understand that as he has not yet been in Sigel's position as a proven dominant champion who is the poster player for a mulit-million dollar tour.

Scott is definitely well known for his one-pocket prowess. And I am sure he would love to get Mike in a game. Mike probably wouldn't like it. Then again, Mike has played in plenty of high stakes matchups himself so maybe Scott might not like it. I suggest Scott try and get Mike to play some time when Mike isn't "at work" and Scott isn't the guy on the outside trying to get in.

John

From what I understand it all started with Sigel woofing at Frost. The next day or rather night is when Frost came at Sigel.
Sigel did way too much talking at this event for my liking. Even if he is
playing the role of Mike the Mouth for the IPT it was a bit over the top.
 
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Gerry said:
I don't think Frost would want to play him any 14.1. Probably trying to get him locked up in 1P, or 8ball, which is no gimme from one of the worlds all time greats!

G.

Your right, i doubt he would match up 14.1. But I still would like to see this more then anyother match up.

Mack
 
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frankncali said:
From what I understand it all started with Sigel woofing at Frost. The next day or rather night is when Frost came at Sigel.
Sigel did way too much talking at this event for my liking. Even if he is
playing the role of Mike the Mouth for the IPT it was a bit over the top.

I second this comment, it ended up getting really old listening to mike not shut up and walking around like he was king shit. I just think there is something to be said about guys like Efren who right now would give Segal weight in ANY Billiards game and put him to sleep. Yet the guy is so humble.

Mack
 
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I watched Mike play a lot of 9-ball and 14.1, but I don't remember ever seeing him play 1P. Tried to find something with a Google search; no luck, but did see on his home page where he has won 102 major tournements - that's just mind-boggling. Saw Frost just dismantle Alex the Lion at the 2004 DCC in a $ 1P match, and from all I've heard, he's right there with the elite 1P players in the world. If there is one person glad to see Mike in the mix now, it's probably Earl. To paraphrase Eddie Murphy: "there's a new lightning rod in town and his name is Mike Sigel". Maybe some of the poolworld heat will be shifted. Thanks for the first-hand reporting from the people that were there.
 
I was watching Scott play one time and a top pro who I will not name made a very similar comment (Sigel's) about Scott's game while watching him play. He just didn't like Scott's game at all.
 
I think Scott Frost is an incredible player and can maneuver that cue ball around with the best of them. I think I would have to bet on Scott against Mike in one pocket. 8 and 9 ball can probably go either way.
 
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I left after the matches and and both KT and Sigel were in suits and ties and I doubt very much that Mike and Scott matched up. Sigel has a voice that carries and his mouth never seems to close and it was disturbing to many players especially Oliver Ortmann. Many of these players were playing some of the biggest matches of their lives and should have been shown a little more consideration. It was great that the players were able to play Sigel and get places in the next 2 qualifiers if they won but it would be better if it was possible to separate those matches a little more from the actual qualifiers. It was better Sunday when Sigel's matches were played on tables 1 & 6 rather than 2 & 7. KT's crew are very professional and I'm sure that things will be tweaked little by little, just like they made the adjustments on tables used for Sigel's matches on Sunday.
 
Snapshot9 said:
John, but I'll take Scott in 1 pocket and 14.1
and Mike in 8 and 9 ball ..... lol

Why on earth would you think that Scott should beat Mike at 14.1? I will give you the one pocket since Scott is the expert in that game, 9 ball and 8 ball are a tossup and in straight pool Mike has the edge in my opinion.

Several years ago Mike ran over 300 balls from the first shot he took. So Scott beat Alex and Corey beat Scott and I haven't heard of Scott barking at Efren to match up even so I am going to guess that one pocket can go different ways among the top players having seen it firsthand.

Mark my words - as good as Efren is - Mike Sigel is every bit as good. When he gets back in the game you will see him begin to be just as powerful an opponent.

John - has seen plenty of Mike in top form
 
I watched Billy Palmer beat Scott pretty handily in a 1h tournament race to 4. I know that gambling and tournament play are way different but Billy just looked like he could have beat Scott all night long playing heads up. Billy moved the rock so well it was awesome!

I understand Cliff Joiner is probably the best money player in 1h next to Efren and I wonder how Billy and Cliff would match up? I would think that would be a great game to watch!
 
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