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FS Hightower Deluxe Cuemaster and $2250 in cuebuilding tools and materials
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Yeah I see your point.
Well now for the rest of the story. I just got an email from him saying he decided he would sell it to a local guy to save him $150 shipping and not having to worry about shipping it. I would have paid the shipping if he would have said that up front. Myself if I give someone my word on something I'll stick to it even if cost me money. To me my word is worth more than a few dollars.
Not defending myself...don't need to
I am completing a sale tomorrow with a buyer who is bringing cash to my door.
This saves both he and I from any potential ill will and keeps us bth safe. We both saved on shipping and split the savings.
Justabanger, just quit it already.
1)shipping 200# of material to Canada would have been outrageously expensive. You made no offer to help with shipping out of country.
2) Paying with Paypal leaves me at risk of your chargeback, which is as bad as a Nigerian rubber check.
3)After the first person failed to send payment I clearly stated in an earlier post that I opened it up to everyone as first come first served. I PM'ed all interested parties in writing and by telephone message if I had their number. YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE LATE on the buzzer...too bad.
4)I made the best deal that I could for myself with no risk whatsoever. You posted before in the WFS section that I could be a scammer even before the 1st deal fell through. Who the hell would do business with you fool?
I am completing a sale tomorrow with a buyer who is bringing cash to my door.
This saves both he and I from any potential ill will and keeps us bth safe. We both saved on shipping and split the savings.
Justabanger, just quit it already.
1)shipping 200# of material to Canada would have been outrageously expensive. You made no offer to help with shipping out of country.
2) Paying with Paypal leaves me at risk of your chargeback, which is as bad as a Nigerian rubber check.
3)After the first person failed to send payment I clearly stated in an earlier post that I opened it up to everyone as first come first served. I PM'ed all interested parties in writing and by telephone message if I had their number. YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE LATE on the buzzer...too bad.
4)I made the best deal that I could for myself with no risk whatsoever. You posted before in the WFS section that I could be a scammer even before the 1st deal fell through. Who the hell would do business with you fool?
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1)First off I'm from Iowa (that's in the USA) and I told you that on the phone last week when you called and told me. I was 2nd in line two the guy that was sending you a certified check. At that time you said if it doesn't work out with him your next in line. 2) As far as Paypal you were the one that suggested we go that route. Since I have an account with them and have never had any trouble with it I agreed. 3) You called me at 11:05 am and left a message saying I was next in line and to get a hold of you today that was on the 4Th. I called you back at 12 Noon not even an hour after your called. I left you two messages that day on the phone I also posted in your post that I would take it. And I sent you a PM and a email also asking that you please reply. You didn't even have the common courtesy to even reply. 4) I JUSTABANGER never posted anything negative about you. You need to read those posts in the WFS again. Your right some people were saying it could be a scam but I wasn't one of them. Because I didn't want to upset the deal I thought we had. So far you have called me a knucklehead in an email now you call me a fool on here. I guess maybe I am a fool for taking you at your word.
I dont know either of you, but if justabanger commited to buy it, as you were selling it, and for your asking price, then its bad business to bail on your deal because you had a better offer. If you wanted someone to pay shipping, all you had to do was ask. And there is no way I would ever send you a check for anything. You are new here with no itrader, and for all we know, you are probably Jeff Forney. I know hes in new york somewehere. Just my pennies.
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Paypal does not just charge back. Both parties are customers. They have the two people try to work it out. If this fails they act as arbitrator.
Yes, you might have made a deal for yourself but it was not good it was bad business.
By the way, the events have zero meaning. You tell the man the reason he did not get it was he was late on the buzzer, thats all. than you decide freight was to much for him without asking, you worry about paypal and finish by saying he is a fool who you would not sell it to anyway?
It is people like you that give selling on line a bad name.
Maybe if the amount is small, but I doubt you will find a bank who will cash a $30K check without you having an account and they will vouch for it, even if it was your brother :grin:
Thanks Snipershot and Tom, I wouldn't have been upset if he hadn't returned my call last week and told me I was next on the list. Then called me back on the 4th and told me I had to get a hold of him that day or he would move on to the next buyer. Then to just ignore my calls, emails, posts, and private messages because he found a better deal didn't set well at all. Then to come back on there with all these reasons why he backed out of our deal. He was the one that said he wanted to go with Paypal and that he would pay for the shipping. Where he ever got that I was in Canada only he knows. Please can anyone can show me where I posted anything negative about him or this deal before he backed out and started the name calling me names. I was taught at a young age that your word is a bond same as a handshake. If your word isn't any good what else have you got.
Let me explain something to you. You're spinning your wheels. Forget it, move on and chalk it up to a lesson learned. You are dealing in the world of billiards where a handshake or someone's word is, in many instances, worthless. Do you understand that; it's worthless!
The seller clearly stated, "I made the best deal that I could for myself". That's all he was intereted in. I would be willing to wager that if you had a deal with him, and the new deal where the buyer picked it up came into play, you would have lost the deal. He claims he didn't want to open himself to a Paypal chargeback. That's BS - if you ship the item with tracking and the item is signed for, paypal will side with him.
Take it from where it came from and move on. There will be other deals. Look at it this way... if you bought it and if the lathe had an issue, do you think he would have helped you out once he had your money? Case closed. Consider yourself fortunate.
Joe, I'm sure your right about most of this and I would have let it go. But when he comes on here and twists the truth to make himself look better and calls me names. It's kind of hard to just turn the other cheek. I know you have caught your share of BS from some people on this site. Maybe like you I need to grow a little thicker skin. I know you wouldn't remember me but I bought your DVDs, some cored ebony, and some other odds and ends from you. And they were all first rate. We talked on the phone a couple of times and you were very patient with me and willing to point me in the right direction. When I do get a new lathe you'll be the first guy I'll be calling. JUSTABANGER.
LOL - Thicker skin!! Put on an Eskimo coat!
I said it before, just take it from where it comes from. His statement, I made the best deal that I could for myself"", is very telling. People are not stupid. Move on and forget it. He did you a favor. Go buy a new lathe from Hightower without any problems; it will save you hundreds in repair or tweaking costs and hours of screwing around fixing someone elses problems.
Thanks for the kind words, go have a beer and enjoy the weekend.
I was writing up pretty much the same thing Joe said before I got sidetracked at work. Its one deal of many you'll run across. And don't count on anything until you have it in hand. I have run across many "deals" on wood, shafts, forearms, etc. but when I got pictures and I looked closely at what they were offering it really looked like their leftovers from the 2nds they bought from someone else.... some were downright junk. I don't think there is a place yet where I've bought several wood products (sight unseen) and wasn't disappointed in something. Pick out your own woods and supplies, try places you actually see exactly what you're buying. Save up some more money and seriously consider getting a new lathe from Chris. I think you'll be happier even if you don't realize it.
I don't see where he would need to save any money. The asking price was right at The Deluxe Hightower price, it was the extras he got screwed out of.
Most of the sight unseen stuff was from Cue Components so based on that I would say it should be good stuff.
I knew this deal was going South the first day. I sold 3 such packages with a Deluxe Hightower over the years for over 4K each. Where I come from they would say the man welched on the deal.
Is anyone saying the guy did the right thing and Justabanger didn't get screwed?
Most of the sight unseen stuff was from Cue Components so based on that I would say it should be good stuff.
I knew this deal was going South the first day. I sold 3 such packages with a Deluxe Hightower over the years for over 4K each. Where I come from they would say the man welched on the deal.
Is anyone saying the guy did the right thing and Justabanger didn't get screwed?
How about I play Devil's Advocate on this one (not saying I totally agree with the following)
I can't really blame the guy for selling it locally and I didn't see where anyone said the seller actually agreed to sell it to him, only that he was next in line.. yeah yeah I know its "sort of" the same thing... but only "sort of".
I bought a lathe off a gentleman recently and when it got here it was fairly messed up. He's made good on the main parts and I'm sure on the rest when UPS settles the claim but its been a bit of pain for me and I'm sure a big one for him. And, finding boxes, packing, getting it shipped etc. is a bit of a pain as well. Although its sad the guy missed out on the deal but its just one of many that will come along. As Joe said, time to move on. It may just well work out better for him.
Yes a single $30k check would be more difficult. Somewhere in the 8-10k range It has to be reported to big brother, and would draw more attention. Some people will cash several checks for under that amount to try and avoid It from being reported, but I was told by someone that it could still be reported, and if they have a single check for a higher amount then that definitely would not be as easy to do.. Personally I never worry about that, because I have nothing to hide, but I cashed a insurance check out for about 8k early in the year, and I didn't have an account at the bank that I cashed It at. My bank would have attached It to my account, so that I would be on the hook for it.. My brother cashed one out at a check cashing place, but They knew the check was good, so not the same thing I suppose.
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