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Sean....Jerry.....you fellows are speaking a different language than I do.

I thought I knew about pool cues and cue-makers. But I hadn't any idea
that new, unused cue tips were collectible due to no longer being made
or that Moori made such an exceptional tip that this price is commanded.

I am at a loss......are these tips for collectible reasons or did Moori
make a leather tip so different and extraordinary that it's rare to find
any and will you be playing with these tips? Guys. I am still dumfounded
but gotta admit I know squat about cue tips, at least leather versions.

I know single vs pressed and the different types of leather but never
imagined that nowadays it would ever be a matter of any consequence.
At least not with the many different long established brand names still
available and the number of new brands over the past decade. So I
guess what I'm asking is are these tips like the famed "golden fleece"
of cue tips or are the tips destined for your personal display case?

Matt B.
 
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is what it is.

I still stand by this saying when i see people asking high prices for something. Ask all you want, no matter what the story or how much you love it. Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
 
Deffinatly awesome tips.. The new mooris stink ... After having one put on a cue about a year ago, it made my decision to switch to kamui's that much easier.. I miss the old mooris..

Chris
 
In response to Matt's comments (Bavafongoul) these old Moori tips used to be the "darling of the industry" Since the originals aren't produced any more and some people really liked them,they can command a high price.I used to put them on every shaft that I had,automatically.The mediums were my favorite,but now I use Kamui (black medium) and they work fine for me.I hear that Ultraskins are good too.I haven't tried the Ultraskins yet but my new cue that is being built will have the Ultraskins.If that's what the builder thinks will work best on his shafts,I will try them.I have Kamui's here at home as spares or "just in case".I think that $100.00 for a tip is a lot but hey,some people pay $27.00 for a cube of chalk.I drive a VW but some people drive a Mercedes.We both get from point A to point B in about the same time,but there is something called,"pride of ownership".It's a feeling that you get when you see your shiny new ride or new (old) Moori tips on your favorite player.If you can afford it and it makes you happy,well,we only go around once,so enjoy.Just my 2 cents.
Marc
 
I sold my stash long ago at 60.00 each and it sold out within 1 day. I kept a few of the MH and is by far still one of the best playing tip for me. These are worth their weight in gold.

Duc.

cueaddicts said:
I have decided to cut loose the last of my stash of these tips that I bought back in the 1990s. They are obviously collector items (as well as the finest tip that's ever been made btw), so the price reflects that accordingly. Warning.....it is not for the faint of heart.

$100 per tip shipped (firm) in US.

Here is what's left....4 Hards and 2 Medium Hards

If interested or you have any questions, please send me a PM.

Thanks for looking.
Sean
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Marc,

You hit the nail right on the head with your post......exactly how I feel and Kamui chalk is a great example.
I won't spend that much for chalk but I bought Blue Diamond so chalk is not irrelevant for me as a player.

I'd never given any prior thought to the type tip to use except for giving consideration to contemporaneous brands.
It never dawned on me to search out a particular tip brand because of its superior play or feel.

When it comes down to brass tacks, if you'll drop $30 for a piece of chalk that should last a year,
well, $100 for a tip seems justifiable since it should last a long time unless you abuse it or excessively
shape the tip. Personally, I think a couple of years sounds about right, and even longer.

All my current cues have Kamui Black medium tips which I like but are a bit hard.
I've purchased 5 Kamui Black Clear tips in soft and super soft for the two cues I have with Bob Owen.
Now I don't know if I'd drop $500 for five Moori tips versus the $100 I spent with Shooter08, whom is a great
seller in case you've never transacted with him before. But I'd spend a $100 for a favorite shaft that belonged to a favorite cue.

Anyway, I'd appreciate future comments how you find the tips to play or any technical observations like why
the leather is different or how the tip gets produced......what made these Morri tips so great....I'd really like to know....wouldn't you?
$100 a tip seems extravagant at first blush but not really if you only did 1 or, at most ,2 shafts, but 5 shafts seems rather expensive.

Matt B.

p.s. And please believe me when I say I'm not a tight-ward either.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
Sean....Jerry.....you fellows are speaking a different language than I do.

I thought I knew about pool cues and cue-makers. But I hadn't any idea
that new, unused cue tips were collectible due to no longer being made
or that Moori made such an exceptional tip that this price is commanded.

I am at a loss......are these tips for collectible reasons or did Moori
make a leather tip so different and extraordinary that it's rare to find
any and will you be playing with these tips? Guys. I am still dumfounded
but gotta admit I know squat about cue tips, at least leather versions.

I know single vs pressed and the different types of leather but never
imagined that nowadays it would ever be a matter of any consequence.
At least not with the many different long established brand names still
available and the number of new brands over the past decade. So I
guess what I'm asking is are these tips like the famed "golden fleece"
of cue tips or are the tips destined for your personal display case?

Matt B.
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Hey Matt, I'll try to answer from my perspective on these Moori's. This could take me a while...lol

I read the replies 1st and like some said, original Moori's are the best tip ever. I share that opinion, so I thought that I'd better jump on them before someone else did. I've got a handful of shafts for some of my cues that still have an original Moori on them and they hit/play the best. These 2 mediums will be reserved for 2 particular cues(shafts)of which is still to be determined. I may not even own the cue yet that one of these tips will be put on, but I have a good idea on which one of my current cues is worthy of such a tip.

I have Kamui, G2, and Ultra Skin tips that I can install on my cues as needed. I like Triangle tips as well. All of these are good tips, but the real deal Moori's are the best ever. Moori 2's were a really good tip, but the 3's and 4's not so much as far as I'm concerned. It makes no sense that these tips declined as the new generations were introduced, but IMO that's the way it went. I miscued with 2 different Moori 3's on 2 occasions and a chunk came off the side of the tip, never had that happen with the 1's or the 2's. For this reason I never even tried a Moori 4.

Kamui became my favorite tip in 2010, but the newer ones don't seam to be as good these days. Maybe they're on the same path as Moori, getting worse as they go along. G2's and Ultra Skins are pretty good tips, too, but I've found no tip that I ever tried compared to the Moori 1 or Moori 2.

As far as spending $100 on a tip, here's my way of thinking. It's 5 times higher than any tip I've ever bought and that makes it sound crazy. The thing that doesn't sound crazy when you really think about it is this, I'll get thousands upon thousands of shots with each one of those tips. One hundred dollars for thousands upon thousand of shots for the game I love just doesn't seam like a lot of money to me, especially when you get to shoot with a tip that was the best that was ever made.

As far as collectability goes, these tips may be worth more than $100 some day, because of sheer numbers left and the craze they created when layered tips were introduced. As for me though, I'm buying these bad boys to play pool with, because that's the reason they were made(" I'm a pool player Eddie, I f***in' play pool !. I'm an animal,,, wwwoooooooooooohhhhhhh, an animal !!!!). Sorry about that.

Lastly, I could possibly search and get these a little cheaper,but I'm not worried about that though. Sean is a trusted and respected person in the industry and I'd rather buy from him. There's more Moori ones and twos out there somewhere and I may buy them if they come along, but these became available from a trustworthy person so what better time than the present.

Sorry for the long reply Matt, Jerry
 
Jerry....some might find your post overdone but frankly, I appreciate reading it.
You synopsized the history of Moori and comparable other tips and did a great
job of making boring prose otherwise sound interesting and appealing...at least
for me. I don't think a $100 for a special tip is out of line when you have prior
firsthand experience confirming the superiority of these tips.

I believe the best tip I ever tried and I would pay $100 for one of his tips.....the
best playing tip I ever used was a original Richard Black tip (medium) on a Bushka
cue that had an ivory joint. The tip was amazing....I tried the cue over a weekend
but returned it because the weight was too heavy....Bill Grassley at Cornerstone
never griped about it and went out of his way to try and help me find another cue.

He refunded my money and to this day still searches for a replacement RB cue with
ivory joint close to my weight requirements which are admittedly on the lighter side.

Matt B.
 
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Bavafongoul said:
Jerry....some might find your post overdone but frankly, I appreciate reading it.
You synopsized the history of Moori and comparable other tips and did a great
job of making boring prose otherwise sound interesting and appealing...at least
for me. I don't think a $100 for a special tip is out of line when you have prior
firsthand experience confirming the superiority of these tips.

II think that the best tip I ever tried and I would pay $100 for one of his tips.....the
best playing tip I ever used was a original Richard Black tip (medium) on a Bushka
cue that had an ivory joint. The tip was amazing....I tried the cue over a weekend
but returned it because the weight was too heavy....Bill Grassley at Cornerstone
never griped about it and went out of his way to try and help me find another cue.

Matt B.
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Hey Matt, you should buy one of the remaining Moori medium hard tips that Sean still has available. I swear by them, they're that good. If you do that, you'll see what the buzz is about. But if you were to do that, don't you dare put it on one of them 1991 Mottey shafts!!!! I'll never pry that cue out of your hands if that was to happen...lol.
 
I don't have a whole ton of cash to throw around but if he was selling some old Moori mediums, I would have to buy as many as I could get my hands on. They held chalk well and after the initial 2-3 hours of seasoning you could clean off any material that mushroomed, reshape and then never have to do anything other than lightly scuff. They held chalk exceptionally well and mis-cues were extremely rare. The only tips that closely resemble feel of a Moori M would probably be Everest but they glaze on me after a couple hours.

If Moori went back to their old process and quality control, they would have the market cornered again within six months.
 
Worth it

I will agree 100% These original Moori Med where the best tip I have ever used and nothing and I mean nothing has ever come close. I would pay the $100 in a second but here is my concern about these. Remember these are now 24 years old and there is a very good chance that these are dried out and hard as a rock. I would have to wonder just how soft and supple they have remained after 24 years. I doubt very much that these will play exactly the same as a fresh new one would when they where made.
 
In response to Joe Van's point in an earlier thread.You have a good point Sir.I don't think that anyone is bashing the sale thread.I see it as a more general discussion,and people are just asking why they are worth so much.If anything we are justifying the sellers price and simply commenting in a nice way.I don't really see it as good or bad.But I do understand your point and I won't comment any further,except to say that I have a friend that stashed away some Moori tips,and I am going to ask him if I can buy a couple or few :winknudge:
Marc
 
JT's cuerepair said:
I will agree 100% These original Moori Med where the best tip I have ever used and nothing and I mean nothing has ever come close. I would pay the $100 in a second but here is my concern about these. Remember these are now 24 years old and there is a very good chance that these are dried out and hard as a rock. I would have to wonder just how soft and supple they have remained after 24 years. I doubt very much that these will play exactly the same as a fresh new one would when they where made.
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It says that they were bought in the 1990's(nineties). They could be between 15 - 24 years old. If for some reason the tips don't play up to their reputation, oh well, I've wasted money before and I'll waste money again.

I'll try to give you some feedback on these in the future, but I'm not sure how long it will be when I'm playing with one.
 
"famed golden fleece of cue tips"....I like that. :)

First gen. Mooris have left the building......all are spoken for.

Thank you AZers. :thumbup:
 
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