FS: Schon R12 - Spliced Points - Stitched Rings!

Hey, I bought an R-12 from Bill years ago for $1100, and I hasten to say this one is much prettier and cheaper! One of my favorite models from Schon....plus a brand new stitched ring shaft to boot? Fughedaboutit.
 
Well, I like a well talked out debate as much as the next guy but I am only going on what my credit card processing company has told me. And that was if you charge people a fee for C.C. services its the same as charging them a fee to accept there money rather its cash check or what ever. Now in a buisness where 85% of things are purchased with a C.C. you margen of profit has to be able to accept that so most people raise there prices 3% across the board or they just accept cost of using that service and eat the fee.

ps: I still think that its a beautiful Schon and I wish the seller the best of luck with hs sale.
 
Danktrees said:
your sears example is also fundamentally flawed. that situation is completely different than this one. in your scenario, sears simply charges u the fee without you being aware of it until after it is done. clearly that is the wrong thing to do, but in this scenario, it has been clearly stated that the cost of using that service is 30 dollars. as you are made aware of the situation, you can choose to use it or not use it in which case i see absolutely nothing wrong with it. you make it sound like it's a huge deal if people see the 3% on their receipt. i guarantee you that most people would only be mad because they were not made aware of it prior to the purchase. if people actually get that angry over being charged 3% extra (paypal fees for example) you would not see so many people buying cues and paying that extra 3% on this forum. not only do they willingly pay it, i have never heard of anyone complaining about having to pay a 3% paypal fee if it was clearly stated beforehand. i do not see what is so wrong with it, if it has been clearly stated, the customer doesnt mind paying it and it is not against paypal policy, what is the problem?
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Ok its not the processing company that has a problem with this its the issuing C.C. company. And on another note I am going to call paypal and see what they have to say about this situation. Well anyways I would like to apologize to Hersheybarbilli for over-running his post on the situation. However this does not appear to be the appropriate place to conduct a conversation of such magnitude. Again I apologize. Have a great 4th of July!
 
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I think it is OK to advertise that a person can save an additional 3% if they pay with cash. While the cost of credit card and paypal sales are certainly added in to the price of the item and passed on to the customer (so that a cash paying customer actually pays 3% too much), I see nothing wrong with offering a discount to the customer for cash sales.

Also, Paypal charges an additional fee for a customer who uses a credit card. Seems like a double standard to me.

Excerpt from Paypal fee policy:
Receive payments funded by Credit Card, Debit Card or Buyer Credit 4.9% + $0.30 USD (limit of 5 transactions per 12 month period)** for domestic or U.S. transactions

2% + applicable Fees Fees for cross border payments

4.9% plus $0.30 USD for card payments received using PayPal on Skype
 
Hersheybarbilli said:
Thanks. I agree with you. Pay Pal has every right to charge a fee and make a profit, it is a great service they provide.

I should have listed the cue at $1030.00 with a $30 discount for a cash deal.
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I think your right you should list it another way and that goes for everyone else here that ads in the bullshit paypal fee , it's a bummer for a buyer to look at a sale here and hear a seller talking 3% paypal fee either put 1050 or 1000 and leave it at that,

Steven
 
everyone does this. it could be simple. send money order and wait 2 or 3 weeks for your cue.

now is 30$ worth your cue in limbo for a few weeks. no
 
wanna vent and a bump

Some of the comments here is major part of the reason why I find the "fun" to be gone in this hobby, for me.

There are many of us who buy and sell cues as a hobby and not a "business". Most of time many of us sell the cue at cost or even at loss - most of the time we re-sale at fairly attractive price. All this nickle and dime-ing over PayPal fee and many bottom feeders takes the fun out of this hobby.

Yes, Bill could've posted something like the cue is for sale at "$1,050 or 3% discount if money order" ... but for god's sake, he posted a nice cue at very attractive price to start with and most of the post on the freaking thread is over god-damn $30 PayPal fee.
 
Jazz said:
Some of the comments here is major part of the reason why I find the "fun" to be gone in this hobby, for me.

There are many of us who buy and sell cues as a hobby and not a "business". Most of time many of us sell the cue at cost or even at loss - most of the time we re-sale at fairly attractive price. All this nickle and dime-ing over PayPal fee and many bottom feeders takes the fun out of this hobby.

Yes, Bill could've posted something like the cue is for sale at "$1,050 or 3% discount if money order" ... but for god's sake, he posted a nice cue at very attractive price to start with and most of the post on the freaking thread is over god-damn $30 PayPal fee.
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Jazz, well put. I agree. I all I wanted was to clear $1000.00 on the cue (otherwise it stays right where it is). If it is Pay Pal I need $1030.00 to get the $1000, simple as that. To me, it is no big deal. However, in the future I will list a cue with a price and a 3% discount for a postal money order. Although it appears nobody wants any old Schons, so I don't have anything that would sell anyway.

Thanks, take care.
 
Jazz said:
Some of the comments here is major part of the reason why I find the "fun" to be gone in this hobby, for me.

There are many of us who buy and sell cues as a hobby and not a "business". Most of time many of us sell the cue at cost or even at loss - most of the time we re-sale at fairly attractive price. All this nickle and dime-ing over PayPal fee and many bottom feeders takes the fun out of this hobby.

Yes, Bill could've posted something like the cue is for sale at "$1,050 or 3% discount if money order" ... but for god's sake, he posted a nice cue at very attractive price to start with and most of the post on the freaking thread is over god-damn $30 PayPal fee.
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Jazz, I wholeheartedly agree. Just this past week, I have had 3 people pull out of deals who made near offer buys (thier suggestion) which I accepted....only to then pull the old "back out". This place has gotten out of hand with this type of behavior. And when you factor in the outright thefts that have occured over the past year + the allegations going on about Greg's Brick cue right now....well, it makes this board less of a good place to be for all. It's no wonder "8-ball Rat" is taking a break. Maybe we all need a break from this board for awhile ???? :(

Anyways, Bill, here's a little bump. Thank you for posting a wonderfully priced cue and being a reliable person to deal with. Now hopefully you will see a buyer comes into the picture.

Sean
 
Hersheybarbilli said:
Thanks Matt, but no. Trying to raise cash and move out a few cues.
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To pay for that new swimming pool? I know the feeling...

I owned this cue for awhile. My recollection is that it is a near perfect example of an original Schon R-12. Like all of Bill's "keeper" collection cues, it is a high standard, collector quality example.

For awhile there, it seems like I would get 2 requests a day for original, stitch ring R-12's. I finally traded it back to Bill. $1,000 on this is a very good price.

Chris
 
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