Full splice lost art

Ascue

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Ive read it all on here about full splice cues. Mostly nonsense. Most people dont even know what it is. Many cuemakers try to tell you a merry widow is just as good. The merry widow is easier to make. Im here to tell you the hit of a spliced cue is far better. Bought an Andy Gilbert solid cocabola. A splendid cue so i then bought his jump/break cue. If i use the playing shaft on the jump/break, a softer feel. Ill say it. A nicer feeling hit. It has spliced points. You can tell by looking at the joint where the cue shaft joins. Same with my Jerico Sneaky. Butta. Its all full spliced for me from here on.
 

Bavafongoul

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The majority of pool players haven’t anything but a sheer guess what their cue weighs.

Ask these same folks about full splice, don’t be surprised if they mistake your query for
a pizza reference & respond “Full splice, of course, but get mine with extra pepperoni.”
“And don’t forget the crushed red pepper. Better pick me up 2 splices. I’m kinda hungry.”
 

Sheldon

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Every cue plays a little different.
I don't think a jump/break qualifies as a true full spliced cue. Might have started out that way, but in my mind a full splice (butt) has no joint in it.
 
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3kushn

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Every cue plays a little different.
I don't think a jump/break qualifies as a true full spliced cue. Might have started out that way, but in my mind a full splice has no joint in it.
Never thought of it that way. Only One Piece cues can be "full splice" Maybe you're correct. Don't know for sure these things.

Several years ago on Dieckman's "back porch" he talked about Coring, He said, the way I build my cues, I automatically have a cored cue, then showed me the very end of the butt (under the bumper) of one of his cues where you could see all the different woods that went into it.

Seemed reasonable to me. Why drill a hole and stick another piece of wood in there? I already have 8 different pieces of wood running the entire length of the butt.

I'm not a cue builder, but the explanation made sense to me on The Dieckman Porch.

Only those that know that porch, know how things went.

Edit:

Shoot, I should have waited for Gar's expected comment (below) on your post.
Looks like we both stumbled, being to hasty to comment without direction.
 
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garczar

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Every cue plays a little different.
I don't think a jump/break qualifies as a true full spliced cue. Might have started out that way, but in my mind a full splice has no joint in it.
full-spice is just the butt. plenty of two-piece cues qualify as full-splice. nothing says it has to be one-piece cue. all the Titleist conversions people lose their shit over are considered full splice cues.
 

Sheldon

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Never thought of it that way. Only One Piece cues can be "full splice" Maybe you're correct. Don't know for sure these things.
Correct or not, it's just the way I see it. I try to avoid making assertions about things that are subjective, or when definitions are unclear.
I was not implying that a cue has to be one piece, but that the butt should be.
 

DeeDeeCues

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Ive read it all on here about full splice cues. Mostly nonsense. Most people dont even know what it is. Many cuemakers try to tell you a merry widow is just as good. The merry widow is easier to make. Im here to tell you the hit of a spliced cue is far better. Bought an Andy Gilbert solid cocabola. A splendid cue so i then bought his jump/break cue. If i use the playing shaft on the jump/break, a softer feel. Ill say it. A nicer feeling hit. It has spliced points. You can tell by looking at the joint where the cue shaft joins. Same with my Jerico Sneaky. Butta. Its all full spliced for me from here on.

Better how? Does the ball go straighter? Does the ball magically know where to go? Does the ball move faster with less effort?

Show me some studies, not some biased, 'I spent a lot of money on a cue so it must be better' anecdotal bs.
 

3kushn

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Better how? Does the ball go straighter? Does the ball magically know where to go? Does the ball move faster with less effort?

Show me some studies, not some biased, 'I spent a lot of money on a cue so it must be better' anecdotal bs.
I should really wait for Gar to explain all this but I want to make a comment prior to input.

All the discussions about coring. Why do you guys add a core?
Does a full splice = adding a core or not.

Just asking. Respectively

I expect a full splice cue has nothing to do with how the ball reacts, maybe nothing to do with how the cue stabilizes.

My Dieckman cue butts did move with climate changes over several years. They've seemed to calm down the last couple years.

The minor movement in the butt never really bothered me. His shafts never noticeably moved the last 20 years.
 

jasonlaus

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Never thought of it that way. Only One Piece cues can be "full splice" Maybe you're correct. Don't know for sure these things.

Several years ago on Dieckman's "back porch" he talked about Coring, He said, the way I build my cues, I automatically have a cored cue, then showed me the very end of the butt (under the bumper) of one of his cues where you could see all the different woods that went into it.

Seemed reasonable to me. Why drill a hole and stick another piece of wood in there? I already have 8 different pieces of wood running the entire length of the butt.

I'm not a cue builder, but the explanation made sense to me on The Dieckman Porch.

Only those that know that porch, know how things went.

Edit:

Shoot, I should have waited for Gar's expected comment (below) on your post.
Looks like we both stumbled, being to hasty to comment without direction.
They core cues because they can't build a cue properly imho.

They don't want to take the time to turn a cue down over time, so they use cores to "prevent" them from warping.

I know some makers who turn them down over 10 years or longer, taking small passes every year or so until the cue doesn't "move" (warp) any longer.

I never hear of them having to throw any forearms away from warpage, nor do I hear of them getting cues back because they warped.
 

jalapus logan

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Better how? Does the ball go straighter? Does the ball magically know where to go? Does the ball move faster with less effort?

Show me some studies, not some biased, 'I spent a lot of money on a cue so it must be better' anecdotal bs.
It's better because of reasons. In addition, cues with points are where it's at. You would want a woman without points, now would you?
 
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