Fullsplice from old Schmelke blank

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Here is the latest cue I got two weeks ago. It's made from Steve Klein by using a old Schmelke fullsplice blank. Schmelke found this forgotten blanks which Dave's Grandfather made. Steve picked up some of them and made this cue. I played a couple of balls with it and it's real stiff. This is one of the hardest hitting cues I played. Let me know what you think about.

I'm not sure if I should hold it in my collection. If someone is intrested in this cue let me know and make a offer.

Now enjoy the pics :)

https://fotoalbum.web.de/alben/customcue/SteveKlein/miniatur

Greetz from germany!
 
schönes Queue,

falls du es verkaufst ?? wieviel, geht auch ein Tausch ??

grüße matthias

PS: ich werde über kurz oder lang eines meiner beiden teuren Novas abgeben, interessiert ?? (wohl daß mit dem EB Joint)
 
mad-mat said:
schönes Queue,

falls du es verkaufst ?? wieviel, geht auch ein Tausch ??

grüße matthias

PS: ich werde über kurz oder lang eines meiner beiden teuren Novas abgeben, interessiert ?? (wohl daß mit dem EB Joint)
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WWWOOOOWWW, I THOUGHT I WAS STONED UNTIL I REALIZED YOU WERE BOTH FROM GERMANY. THE CUE IS NICE BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL EVER BECOME REALLY COLLECTABLE. THEREFORE PROBABLY ISN'T A REASON TO HOLD IT IN A COLLECTION. A NICE FULLSPLICE CUE LIKE THAT DESERVES TO BE USED. JUST MY OPINION THOUGH.
 
customcue said:
Here is the latest cue I got two weeks ago. It's made from Steve Klein by using a old Schmelke fullsplice blank. Schmelke found this forgotten blanks which Dave's Grandfather made. Steve picked up some of them and made this cue. I played a couple of balls with it and it's real stiff. This is one of the hardest hitting cues I played. Let me know what you think about.

I'm not sure if I should hold it in my collection. If someone is intrested in this cue let me know and make a offer.

Now enjoy the pics :)

https://fotoalbum.web.de/alben/customcue/SteveKlein/miniatur

Greetz from germany!
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I believe they think the old guy made the splice, but I don't believe Schmelke made the splice. It looks to me like a Helmstetter - I'm pretty sure but not 100%. Schmelke made low end cues and probably used imported forearms obtained through a distributor.

These were high quality full splice cue blanks and were endorsed by Burton Spain.

Chris
 
skchengdds said:
Actually......I think that splice is an Adams. Check this out:

http://www.wuscues.com/Burnswick/brunswick002.htm

Just from the colors on the veneers?? Whatcha think Chris??

sherwin
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When I said Helmstetter I meant Adam, Japan - same thing.

Yeah, boy Joel can sure spot them. My mind said Titlist at first when I looked at that - whew! Man, I don't think I've ever noticed a Willie Hoppe with an Adam before. Good work, Sherwin. I'm going to ask Dr. Wu if I can get a copy of that pic for my site - pretty darn cool.

Yes, the way the veneers are done at the front and back, the woods, the colors - I have some with the similar forearm as the one Steve Klein used. The forearm Steve Klein used dates to about 1975. After that, Adam went to a longer point. Even the Hoppe Adam Joel said was acquired in the 1980' has the 1970 style forearm. The later ones were longer but not as high quality in my opinion.

Chris
 
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Here's a better pic to look at and compare.

Notice how long the veeneers are when they come together on the Szamboti and Spain, and the subdued colors? Notice the length of the later Adam points versus the earlier.

from left to right,

Szamboti forearm, early 1970's

Burton Spain forearm , late 1960's

Adam cue, 1983

Palmer with Adam forearm, mid 1970's.

Points.JPG



Here's one that's very silimar to the one Steve Klein used up there:

points3.jpg


And here's the Steve Klein cue:

printImage.jpg


I hear Steve's cues are really coming along nicely and he certainly is one of the most affordable custom makers out there.
They probably found the old splices and thought grandpa made them or something. Either that or they are just very, very similar.


Chris
 
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customcue said:
Here is the latest cue I got two weeks ago. It's made from Steve Klein by using a old Schmelke fullsplice blank. Schmelke found this forgotten blanks which Dave's Grandfather made. Steve picked up some of them and made this cue. I played a couple of balls with it and it's real stiff. This is one of the hardest hitting cues I played. Let me know what you think about.

I'm not sure if I should hold it in my collection. If someone is intrested in this cue let me know and make a offer.

Now enjoy the pics :)

https://fotoalbum.web.de/alben/customcue/SteveKlein/miniatur

Greetz from germany!
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By the way, I'm pretty sure the inner prong and handle portion is from Brazilian Rosewood. It closely resembles macassar ebony, but the rosewood is a little more colorful. It's a rare wood now. It was banned in the U.S. for import over 10 years ago.

The Adam cue I have with a solid Brazilian rosewood handle also has a very firm hit. I'm surpised nobody has picked up on the idea to convert these cues since they are from a rare species of wood and are a quality splice. My Palmers are really nice.

Chris

Chris
 
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TATE said:
By the way, I'm pretty sure the inner prong and handle portion is from Brazilian Rosewood. It closely resembles macassar ebony, but the rosewood is a little more colorful. It's a rare wood now. It was banned in the U.S. for import over 10 years ago.


Chris

Chris
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That's sweet. Brazilian Rosewoods are among the prettiest and most "harmonic" of all woods.
A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Zylr made out of a house cue with Braz rosewood prongs. It hit pretty sporty.
I only have one blank. Was lucky enough to find one.
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Nice Palmers!!

Chris,

Your Palmers are really nice!!! I absolutely love the old Palmers with the Spain and Szamboti forearms. Wonderful cues!! I once had a Palmer with a Burton Spain forearm and didn't even know it. Sold it for $500 in trade......biggest mistake I ever made. Felt absolutely sick to my stomach when I found out and felt even worse when a friend of mine (I thought anyway) didn't come clean with what he had purchased from me. Honestly a painful learning experience. But I will NEVER make a mistake like that again.

What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger :D

BTW, I have several conversion cues make with Adams blanks. They're nice, but I do prefer the older Titlists, and especially the 26.5s and Carom Kings. Those have thinner and lighter colored veneers, but the points just seem so nice up and down the cue.

sherwin
 
JoeyInCali said:
That's sweet. Brazilian Rosewoods are among the prettiest and most "harmonic" of all woods.
A friend of mine was lucky enough to get a Zylr made out of a house cue with Braz rosewood prongs. It hit pretty sporty.
I only have one blank. Was lucky enough to find one.
bz1.jpg
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It's definitely a solid wood and it's very attractive. I can see where it would be confused for walnut, cocobolo, or macassar ebony, but when it's polished up it is prettier than those woods because it's got a nicer color and it's got tighter grain.

Maybe we should be looking for those Brazilian rosewood full splice Adams and converting. The ones made in the 1970's have good veneer work and the points on mine are really even. They started getting sloppy later and I don't know why, and I think the veneers are thinner too.

Chris
 
skchengdds said:
Chris,

Your Palmers are really nice!!! I absolutely love the old Palmers with the Spain and Szamboti forearms. Wonderful cues!! I once had a Palmer with a Burton Spain forearm and didn't even know it. Sold it for $500 in trade......biggest mistake I ever made. Felt absolutely sick to my stomach when I found out and felt even worse when a friend of mine (I thought anyway) didn't come clean with what he had purchased from me. Honestly a painful learning experience. But I will NEVER make a mistake like that again.

What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger :D

BTW, I have several conversion cues make with Adams blanks. They're nice, but I do prefer the older Titlists, and especially the 26.5s and Carom Kings. Those have thinner and lighter colored veneers, but the points just seem so nice up and down the cue.

sherwin
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Thank you I would like to see some of your conversions anytime.

Chris
 
"I believe they think the old guy made the splice, but I don't believe Schmelke made the splice. It looks to me like a Helmstetter - I'm pretty sure but not 100%."

That blank was absolutely made by Schmelke, 100% guaranteed.



"Schmelke made low end cues and probably used imported forearms obtained through a distributor."



Schmelke has always made full splice blanks.

JUst so you know MOST custom sneaky pete's that are made of fancy wood combos (coco/birdseye purpleheart/birdseye etc.) are made using Schmelke full splice blanks! In fact most of your prominent cue parts dealers do nothing more than resell their blanks.
 
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TATE said:
I believe they think the old guy made the splice, but I don't believe Schmelke made the splice. It looks to me like a Helmstetter - I'm pretty sure but not 100%. Schmelke made low end cues and probably used imported forearms obtained through a distributor.

These were high quality full splice cue blanks and were endorsed by Burton Spain.

Chris
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CHRIS,
SCHMELKE, MAKES/MADE FULL SPLICE BLANKS. THEY STILL OFFER THEM FOR SALE ON THE WEBSITE. I WAS GOING TO BUY A FEW AND HAVE SNEAKY'S MADE OUT OF THEM. I LIKE SNEAKY'S WITH VENEERS. JUST THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY MADE BLANKS LIKE THE ONE PICTURED. HAVE A GOOD ONE.
 
Adams 's Hoppe

TATE said:
When I said Helmstetter I meant Adam, Japan - same thing.

Yeah, boy Joel can sure spot them. My mind said Titlist at first when I looked at that - whew! Man, I don't think I've ever noticed a Willie Hoppe with an Adam before. Good work, Sherwin. I'm going to ask Dr. Wu if I can get a copy of that pic for my site - pretty darn cool.

Yes, the way the veneers are done at the front and back, the woods, the colors - I have some with the similar forearm as the one Steve Klein used. The forearm Steve Klein used dates to about 1975. After that, Adam went to a longer point. Even the Hoppe Adam Joel said was acquired in the 1980' has the 1970 style forearm. The later ones were longer but not as high quality in my opinion.

Chris
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Chris,

Why get a pic, when u can get the real thing ...with full decal some more..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-70s-Wil...ryZ21212QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Bgrds
Raist
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
CHRIS,
SCHMELKE, MAKES/MADE FULL SPLICE BLANKS. THEY STILL OFFER THEM FOR SALE ON THE WEBSITE. I WAS GOING TO BUY A FEW AND HAVE SNEAKY'S MADE OUT OF THEM. I LIKE SNEAKY'S WITH VENEERS. JUST THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT THEY ACTUALLY MADE BLANKS LIKE THE ONE PICTURED. HAVE A GOOD ONE.
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Marcus,

I checked it out - the only ones I could find were those bar cue blanks they have, they look like the ones Joe Barringer (now Cue Components) makes.

Chris




Chris
 
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TATE said:
Marcus,

I checked it out - the only ones I could find were those bar cue blanks they have, they look like the ones Joe Barringer (now Cue Components) makes.

Chris




Chris
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Schmelke makes their own.
CC? I highly doubt it. 90% sure it's the other way around.
I have 8 of Schmelke's blanks.
A little tricky to come close to lining up the points.
They come pretty thick. You have to pick the ones good enough not to have wraps but they're ok in general.
No veneered blanks though.
 
TATE said:
Marcus,

I checked it out - the only ones I could find were those bar cue blanks they have, they look like the ones Joe Barringer (now Cue Components) makes.

Chris




Chris
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THE VENEERED ONES ARE NO LONGER LISTED. A FEW MONTHS AGO THEY HAD THEM LISTED FOR SALE. SEVERAL DIFFERENT STYLES AS WELL.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Schmelke makes their own.
CC? I highly doubt it. 90% sure it's the other way around.
I have 8 of Schmelke's blanks.
A little tricky to come close to lining up the points.
They come pretty thick. You have to pick the ones good enough not to have wraps but they're ok in general.
No veneered blanks though.
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You think CC buys from Schmelke? Barringer says he makes those...

If not, I DEMAND A REFUND!!!! Damn, no wonder CC didn't want to take back a warped one. But they sure look like the same thing to you too, right?

Chris
 
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