Fundamentals - Main Reason for Euro's Dominance in MC
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Agreed. All boils down to this. The US threw away far too many racks. The Europeans do make mistakes but not that many when it comes to key shots
Take out SVB, who is far from rock steady in this event, and how many major 9-ball titles and made-for-TV spectacles have Americans won since 2008?
US Open 9 ball: SVB 5, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
World 9 ball: SVB 0, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
China Open: SVB 0, Rest of USA 0, Europe 4
World Cup of Pool: USA 1 (with SVB), Europe 4
World Pool Masters: SVB 2, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
Challenge of Champions: SVB 1, Rest of USA 0, Europe 6
(Apologies for any typos above but you get the picture)
They're just better.
US Open 9 ball: SVB 5, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
World 9 ball: SVB 0, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
China Open: SVB 0, Rest of USA 0, Europe 4
World Cup of Pool: USA 1 (with SVB), Europe 4
World Pool Masters: SVB 2, Rest of USA 0, Europe 5
Challenge of Champions: SVB 1, Rest of USA 0, Europe 6
(Apologies for any typos above but you get the picture)
They're just better.
I’m sure fundamentals are a big part of it. What I’ve noticed is the us team seems to lose every safety battle that takes place.
that's part of fundamentals too. they arent precise enough to counter effectively. they may know what to do but the success rate isnt quite there yet. the europeans generally dont play complex, efren-level stuff. they're mostly simple, repeatable 'set plays'.
However if this was races to a hundred we would win every one cause the variances would equal out and we would win in a landslide , lol
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When I saw how Skyler made the bridge for that shot, I was sure he will not run that rack, and understood how important the fundamentals are.
https://youtu.be/XAQBz0HIQSM?t=36m17s
https://youtu.be/XAQBz0HIQSM?t=36m17s
Wasn't just the bridge. Watch the top of his head. It starts lifting slightly as he delivers the cue. Worst i've seen this kid play. Pretty bad.
... and that's why you keep your chin on the cue, plain and simple.
It's a reference point, both for your head and eyes and for your movement of the cue.
And that's how you do it. van Boening played a very good saftey. Filler just didn't care and even pockets the ball:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gebczo-yJy4#t=7m03s
And: nanananananana, we keep winning!
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It's a reference point, both for your head and eyes and for your movement of the cue.
And that's how you do it. van Boening played a very good saftey. Filler just didn't care and even pockets the ball:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gebczo-yJy4#t=7m03s
And: nanananananana, we keep winning!
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I disagree, proper fundamentals are required for top play, period. The US team abandoned theirs, thus their miserable performance. When the pressure is on, that's the time to rely on rock solid fundamentals. Perhaps it's just an inferior work ethic?
I agree... Fundamentals are important for every player. However Shaw has one of the worst lines up and bridges ever. For you guys to pick apart Skyler's stroke is crazy. No pro has great fundamentals except for your older players like Loree Jon or Alison Fisher.
Same thing goes for Tennis Players. I use to give Tennis Lessons. I would teach everyone exactly like I looked in the text books. Stroke, form. Whatever. But they all adapt to what works for them. John McEnroe... Worst looking server ever. But he was a serving Genius during his hayday. Stephan Edberg..., Work looking stroke ever off his back foot. But.., Made it work.
I am sorry, but you don't get to that level of pool playing and find your own style. I played a tournament with Sky not long ago. I watched him run a 7 pack against a guy. The simple fact is Europe came to play. They are keeping the matches tight. Not missing key shots in the rack. They are never letting USA get their feet wet. It's hard to get in to match in a situation like team pool if you can't get some momentum. Right now, Europe has all the momentum.
This statement should be posted up all round the US Players Practice Area.
It encapsulates precisely and succinctly why the USA will never again win this tournament.
Cue Action to any USA player is when he finds another player who wants to gamble against him. To any other player it refers to how their cue is being delivered on a shot.
A sound Cue Action is the only way for a player to contain pressure. Balls can be pocketed using all kinds of faults in cue delivery but if you want to maintain consistency when the chips are down then you must have ironclad fundamentals.
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I will concede that form and fundamentals is not a one glove fits all type of solution. I will say that whatever form/method the USA players have adapted for themselves over the years is what they seem to be abandoning. In other words, whatever they did that worked in the past, is NOT working for them now.
Let it be bro
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take care,
Really, so when Sky missed that 8 ball that was almost straight in, and most of us knew we'd be out on this 4 ball run ourselves. What happened.
Well, if you watch the shot, he pushes his cue to the right of the cue ball while shooting the 8 ball. Well, what does that do? Sends the cb to the left, correct? And instead of hitting the 8 ball dead on, he now over cuts it, yep, to the left, and the 8 ball hits the top cushion/point of the pocket which is to the right of the pocket.
All because his normal fundamentals failed him at the wrong time, while under pressure. I mean, you can miss, that's fine, but you can't miss because of fundamentals. Hey, you lined it up wrong, or you loaded with English and it just spinned it more than anticipated, whatever, but at this level it should NOT be because of fundamentals. I suspect this is why the Euro's miss a lot less.
I don't mind when I miss, but if it's because of my stroke, then I know it's still not where it should be, as it should be, on every shot; easy/hard, game on the line or first ball in the set. It has to be the same. If you fundamentals fail you under pressure, that's a huge disadvantage against opponents that don't have the same problem, yes?