Those two hikes started at the Tam McArthur trailhead, it's part of the Broken Top loop, Broken Hand is the high point of the loop. It starts out at 6,500 feet, goes to 8,200 before dropping down and going around Broken Hand, then it's up to 8,400 feet. It's part of the Three Sisters wilderness in Are-We-Gone.Where 's that...and what elevation does the hike start at?
Since this is the humor section, a quick true story. Nearby is another mountain called Three Fingered Jack, it looks right at the Three Sisters and some say Jack has one finger for each of the Three Sisters.