fury amater tour

buck15

going broke! got there!
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i played in the fury tour last year and after many events and traveling exspenses the tour was cut short.there was an article published in a billiard digest i think,and it gave all of our standing as to how we finished the points.another article was put into inside english i believe that staed we would be getting our promised prize money and items.i have recived nothing along with the others.i contacted king promotions that put the tour on and was told that fury and the other sponsers backed out and all money was gone.does anyone know anyone from fury that can find out what is going on.kb has many tours still running ,why did we get pimped?i spent alot of money traveling and supporting that tour.and please don't anyone from kb start yappin about tour directoers and money gone,that a b.s exscuse that don't fly.you hire the people that work for ya,so lets not use that one.anybody that can shed some light please respond.thanks.
 
I work for Sterling Gaming. They are the North American distributors of Fury Cues, and were sponsors of the Fury Amateur Tours. We provided all of the product to Kings Bay for EVERY event that was held. In addition, we provided year-end prizes for each tour that ran a full schedule. Some divisions only ran part of their schedule, in some cases just one or two events, and then were ended before the end of the scheduled season. Since they didn't finish out the schedule, there were no products sent for those divisions. The Cash prizes that were to be awarded at the end of the year came out of the funds generated by the sale of the tour cards, and that money went directly to Kings Bay Promotions. You would need to contact them directly to find out what happened to those funds.
Sterling Gaming made a business decision not to renew the sponsorship agreement with KBP for 2006.
Steve
 
fury tour

i can understand sterling gamings side.sounds pretty straight forward.i still can't believe that the lady that runs the tour(i think her name was kay)would not pay a thing after we they had so many events.she published a letter in inside english that sated we would get our stuff,even though it ended early.i understand that nothing will become of it but it really makes the player doubt any tours or other events that may help the sport.leaves a bad taste.thanks.
 
buck15 said:
it really makes the player doubt any tours or other events that may help the sport.leaves a bad taste.thanks.
Think of the tour as a woman... if you dated a woman that cheated on you, no one would blame you for wanting to be careful & guarded. However, it wouldn't be fair to the new woman in your life or yourself to hold the sins of others in the past against the innocents of today. There are folks out there that run a very good, respectable, & reliable regional tour. ;)

I hope you're able to find something in your area soon. It's a shame for all of the players involved that this happend.
 
Blackjack said:
...and as a result the players have inherited the consequences of that decision -

Kay Higgins posts in this forum and she is very easy to get in touch with via PM or via telephone.
Didn't Kay make the 1st decision? Didn't that decision lead Sterling to make their decision? I've heard rumors about what happend but I've never said anything and I'm not about to start now because I don't know the whole story and it's not my business to repeat any of it. But, I will say that if the rumors that I heard are correct then it would be that the players inherited the consequences of Kay's decision. :confused:
 
Timberly said:
Didn't Kay make the 1st decision? Didn't that decision lead Sterling to make their decision? I've heard rumors about what happend but I've never said anything and I'm not about to start now because I don't know the whole story and it's not my business to repeat any of it. But, I will say that if the rumors that I heard are correct then it would be that the players inherited the consequences of Kay's decision. :confused:

Rumors are rumors. I removed my post for my own reasons - thanks for quoting it after it was deleted :rolleyes: . I don't see what good it does to bring this up in the forum unless you have spoken to her personally. As far as my statement about players having to deal with the consequences of that decision, FWIW it took two to tango in that decision and the only losers were the players that play in and support those events - business as usual.
 
Blackjack said:
Rumors are rumors. I removed my post for my own reasons - thanks for quoting it after it was deleted :rolleyes: . I don't see what good it does to bring this up in the forum unless you have spoken to her personally. As far as my statement about players having to deal with the consequences of that decision, FWIW it took two to tango in that decision and the only losers were the players that play in and support those events - business as usual.
I can't quote a post after it's deleted. You must've deleted it while I was replying. :rolleyes:

I know rumors are rumors, hence the reason I said that I never said anything.

Yes, the players are the ones that lost out. Sterling is a business and they had to make a business decision... if it wasn't in the best interest of the business to stick around then it doesn't make very good business sense to stay.
 
Sterling Gaming provided more product to King's Bay Promotions than was agreed upon. We provided cues to tour players who were not given the cues that were sent to King's Bay for the year-end distribution. It is our understanding that many players have not been paid monies owed to them by King's Bay Promotions.

Sterling Gaming was not involved in the collection of or the disbursement of any monies involved in the Fury Amateur Tour during the time that we sponsored that tour. Our involvement was stricty to provide product to the tour in exchange for the title billing.

Our decision to end the relationship was strictly based on the fact that we did not feel as though we were receiving the value that we wanted to out of the relationship. We understand that there are many lingering issues surrounding player compensation. Sterling Gaming has no repsonsibility or ability to influence how those issues are handled by King's Bay Promotions.

Personally, I would advise any player who has a grievance with King's Bay Promotions to file a claim with their local small claims court or pursue any legal remedies available to them. It will only take a small amount of research to find numerous avenues to make claims against King's Bay Promotions.

From what I understand there has even been talk of a class action suit in the works. I have no other information on this but anyone interested can email me at john@sterling-gaming.com and I will be sure to pass on whatever comes my way.

On behalf of Sterling Gaming I would like to thank all of the room owners and players who participated in the Fury Tour. We enjoyed sponsoring amateur pool and continue to do so. We will make every attempt in the future to ally ourselves with promoters who value their customers as much as we value ours.

John Barton
Sterling Gaming - North American Distributer of Fury Cues
 
Blackjack said:
Rumors are rumors. I removed my post for my own reasons - thanks for quoting it after it was deleted :rolleyes: . I don't see what good it does to bring this up in the forum unless you have spoken to her personally. As far as my statement about players having to deal with the consequences of that decision, FWIW it took two to tango in that decision and the only losers were the players that play in and support those events - business as usual.

Perhaps you should be so kind as to find out the other side before you post.

The players on the Fury Tour for 2004 and 2005 should have received every Fury Cue that was promised to them as EVERY Fury Cue promised to King's Bay Promotions was delivered to each event or to King's Bay Promotions address as agreed upon. In fact, we delivered cues to many events that were NOT agreed upon and added after the sponsorship was started.

Your two to tango analogy doesn't hold water. If there are players that are owed money then it has nothing to do with Sterling Gaming's decision to end the sponsorship. To reiterate, Sterling Gaming gave more product to King's Bay Promotions than was agreed upon. Sterling Gaming has not now nor has ever had any ownership in King's Bay Promotions nor did Sterling Gaming have anything to do with the finances of King's Bay Promotions. Whether King's Bay Promotions pays monies owed to it's members or not has nothing to do with the product sponsorship agreement that was more than 100% honored by Sterling Gaming.

John Barton - Sterling Gaming
 
Blackjack said:
Rumors are rumors. I removed my post for my own reasons - thanks for quoting it after it was deleted :rolleyes: . I don't see what good it does to bring this up in the forum unless you have spoken to her personally. As far as my statement about players having to deal with the consequences of that decision, FWIW it took two to tango in that decision and the only losers were the players that play in and support those events - business as usual.

I would like to point out that this very thread points to the fact that we at Sterling Gaming have come out loser in this as well. There are thousands of dollars' worth of product that are unaccounted for. Our reputation is tarnished by association.

I find it incredibly interesting that the sponsor is being accused for the mess that the promoter made. Without sponsors such as Sterling Gaming most regional tours could not exist. Nevertheless we do not manage the tours we sponsor. We have ZERO culpability and ZERO liability for King's Bay Promotion's deficiency in delivering the promised monies and goods.

John Barton
 
onepocketchump said:
I would like to point out that this very thread points to the fact that we at Sterling Gaming have come out loser in this as well. There are thousands of dollars' worth of product that are unaccounted for. Our reputation is tarnished by association.

I find it incredibly interesting that the sponsor is being accused for the mess that the promoter made. Without sponsors such as Sterling Gaming most regional tours could not exist. Nevertheless we do not manage the tours we sponsor. We have ZERO culpability and ZERO liability for King's Bay Promotion's deficiency in delivering the promised monies and goods.

John Barton

Someone emailed me this thread to bring it to my attention and in reading it I was not going to post out here but I will make a few comments.

I do not think the original thread was meant to hold Sterling Gaming accountable at all. I believe a player was trying to reach out to "Fury" to try to get some help in getting their prize money from KBP. As I have explained about 1 year ago to all of the players they probably would not see anything. I have spoken to many of the players throughout the year regarding this that are local that I play with.

A lawsuit was started but ended as it would cost me more money than what the players would get back and more money than I make in my other career in 3 months. Therefore, I started running other major events in the area where I made no money and with the support of some generous room owners players were once again able to compete in a tournament with bigger payouts. These tournaments will once again start in the fall as long as we have the support of the room owners in the area. All rooms are hurting in the area this time of year.

Other things have been done and will continue to be done to give the players an opportunity to recoup their loses even if they have to pay an entry fee. I know to some this does not help. All I can do is try to give the players the opportunity to play and win.

All of the business professionals of Sterling Gaming have done a fine job. They have gone above and beyond what their agreement with KBP was. Fury's name is not tarnished here in the Great Lakes Region. Every tournament I ran for KBP were players and room owners were to receive Sterling Gaming products got just that and the product that was given to me or delivered directly to the room owners was delivered. Anything extra that was in my possession was returned to either Sterling Gaming or KBP by certified carrier. Many players here that are at an amateur level do play with Fury and Sierra cues as well as still outfit themselves with products that were either supplied or purchased through Sterling Gaming. I also know for a fact that many room owners do still purchase their retail products from Sterling Gaming.

If I hit the lottery I would pay all of you your membership fees back and pay out the prize money for the end of the year. I would also hold a $10K tournament free entry. But hitting the lottery is close to impossible and I am not as successful as Kevin T. - yet. It is unfortunate that even though all of your money was sent to KBP and accounted for that KBP will not hold up their end of the agreement.

My advice to all of you reading this is to not do business with such KBP as they are shady people as I have learned. Also my advice to you is to not play in any of her tournaments down south.

Not only did Sterling come out a loser, I came out at a financial loss as well as the players. The only person who scammed and profited was KBP.

My last thought is to why this subject is continually reinterated here on AZ. All this does is open up chaos and problems because of its negativity. If there is someone who would like to discuss this send me an email. I will give you my two cents as I have stated here and then direct you to KBP.

Bottom line will never change unless Kay Higgins pays you your money that she holds in her possession. I will not post on this subject anymore.

Jennifer Amalfitano
 
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