future cue tips

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I tried these synthetics several years ago then went to a leather tip. I kind of had an itch to try them again. His web site doesn't come up on a search. Does anybody know if he's still in business. Thanks
 
You might try Long's Billiard Supply out of Newport New,Va Same people as Tip Pik or Billiards Express. Which tip hardness: Hard , Med, or what? I Might have one or two in a drawer med hardness.
 
> I might know where a stash of them is,but I'd hate to even try and ask the person who has them. My friend Dennis that passed away about this time last year said he had some the last time I talked to him. I'm sure she still has them,but I wouldn't want to cause her any distress by having to go dig for them. If I can get them without upsetting her,I'd be willing to part with some,as he surely would have. The softer ones are really an acquired taste,but the black ones were GREAT on a break or jump cue. Dennis was childhood buddies with Bill Howard,and I even talked to him once on the phone at Dennis' house,and he talked about all the different things he tried before coming up with the version that went to market. If I can get a phone number for Bill,I'll see if I can get several,I don't want to part with the 3 I have. I have no clue about if he's still in business or not,and have never seen anyone selling them,but I'm pretty sure he has some if he's still alive. Last I heard,he had a 55 gallon drum full of the black ones. Tommy D.
 
I have 8 - 14mm, and 1 - 13 1/2mm, med hardness, Brown color.
Tommy-D, wasn't there a special instruction on glueing the tip? What could/couldn't be use?
 
Tommy-D said:
> I might know where a stash of them is,but I'd hate to even try and ask the person who has them. My friend Dennis that passed away about this time last year said he had some the last time I talked to him. I'm sure she still has them,but I wouldn't want to cause her any distress by having to go dig for them. If I can get them without upsetting her,I'd be willing to part with some,as he surely would have. The softer ones are really an acquired taste,but the black ones were GREAT on a break or jump cue. Dennis was childhood buddies with Bill Howard,and I even talked to him once on the phone at Dennis' house,and he talked about all the different things he tried before coming up with the version that went to market. If I can get a phone number for Bill,I'll see if I can get several,I don't want to part with the 3 I have. I have no clue about if he's still in business or not,and have never seen anyone selling them,but I'm pretty sure he has some if he's still alive. Last I heard,he had a 55 gallon drum full of the black ones. Tommy D.
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PM me if you can find any green ones. Thanks
 
billiardshot said:
I have 8 - 14mm, and 1 - 13 1/2mm, med hardness, Brown color.
Tommy-D, wasn't there a special instruction on glueing the tip? What could/couldn't be use?
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You have to clean the tip and ferrule with alcohol and use a 2 part epoxy. The super glue type adhesives won't hold very long. I use my tip pic to rough up the back of the tip a little so it won't be like glass.
 
That right, only epoxy was to be use. I wonder did anyone ever use them on a house stick and how did the tip hold up?
 
billiardshot said:
That right, only epoxy was to be use. I wonder did anyone ever use them on a house stick and how did the tip hold up?
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I've got one on an old cue that guests use thats been on over 5 yaers. Its getting pretty thin now but it still shoots ok
 
> The instructions I was given was to use super glue just like a regular tip,but there was a little more to the preparation. You had to sand the back with a really rough sandpaper,like the reddish 80 grit discs. You then apply glue to the ferrule,apply tip,and smear the glue around really good. You keep doing that until you feel the glue almost ready to bite,then pull the tip off,blow on it,apply a little more glue to the tip,center it and apply clamping pressure with either your concave live center,or your thumb,and hold for about 30 seconds. Back when I was using them exclusively,I was trimming them with a Porper pencil-eraser cutter,and they peeled in a continuous ribbon. They also do this with a lathe tool,but you also got the smell associated with sanding this material. It smells like melting electrical tape,leading me to think that it is a PVC compound. Or at least the black one is. I looked today and have 2 of the blue and one green,but one of the blue ones was installed,came off and was brought back and I saved it. It's still about 13mm. I had heard from Dennis that there was a brown one too,and that the blue one actually had 2 different versions,one slightly harder than the other,but still not as hard as the black,which just short of phenolic,but actually let you "bite" the cue ball for stopping the rock on the break. Send me a mailing address and I've give ya the ones I have,but I'm keeping the black ones. Hope this helps,Tommy D.
 
Tommy-D, in '96 I was told to use epoxy not super glue because it have an effect on the materials that make up the tip. This lead to two other questions. Was an actual instruction sheet given out with the tip, or was instruction told verbally when you brought the tip from a billiard supplier? Was future tip, also call super tip later? An early '90 ad. stated [2 tips for $19.95], which I have a photo copy .
 
billiardshot said:
Tommy-D, in '96 I was told to use epoxy not super glue because it have an effect on the materials that make up the tip. This lead to two other questions. Was an actual instruction sheet given out with the tip, or was instruction told verbally when you brought the tip from a billiard supplier? Was future tip, also call super tip later? An early '90 ad. stated [2 tips for $19.95], which I have a photo copy .
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I don't remember the future tip ever being called "super tip". I got the same installation instructions as Tommy-D explained from Jim Lowery.
 
> I actually never once paid for these tips,Dennis just gave me a bunch over the years. The instructions came from not only Dennis,but Bill Howard as well. The black ones I have have the grooves cut in them just like the new X-Breaker. Tommy D.
 
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