Gamblers in the leagues?
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I'm a big league gambler. I started the thread about wanting to gamble with other league players at the DCC.
What confounds me is that there are several players rated 6 or 7 that always gamble with each other but why don't two 4s ever go at it? Or why don't the 4s match up against a 6 or 7 and play the 5-3 or 5-2 race?
When it comes to pool gambling in general I'm convinced that it's not the money that people are afraid of losing. They are afraid that they will leave feeling like they got hustled and that they will look like a sucker.
What confounds me is that there are several players rated 6 or 7 that always gamble with each other but why don't two 4s ever go at it? Or why don't the 4s match up against a 6 or 7 and play the 5-3 or 5-2 race?
When it comes to pool gambling in general I'm convinced that it's not the money that people are afraid of losing. They are afraid that they will leave feeling like they got hustled and that they will look like a sucker.
Luxury said:
Most league players are sissies? At least around me. On my 9-ball team the 3's 4's and 5's gambled more than anyone. With each other, with other people, etc. I mean who really cares about losing $5 or $10 a set. Just step up and play. I would always play anyone. When I was brand new and ranked an APA SL3, I played the only undefeated SL7 in our 8-ball league for races to 5 for $10. I had a blast and he enjoyed my $20 or so.
-J
It's the money, for me.Luxury said:
League Gambling
Around here you can usually get a little action after league. I'm not that good, so I like cheap sets. A few of the better players on me team will play for decent money.
We beat this team, BCA league, 200 - to like 98 or something like that. 200 is a perfect score in this league. The captain of the other team was pissed. He pulled out a wad and said he had $5k...who wants to take it? The guy sucked, so my whole team about beat each other up to get to him. Anyway, by last call my buddy had already taken $800 or $900. The guy was pissed, his team didn't win a single game, he lost almost a G, and to top it off his girlfriend was practically molesting my younger brother. I had to think he was probably on suicide watch that night
Good times!
Around here you can usually get a little action after league. I'm not that good, so I like cheap sets. A few of the better players on me team will play for decent money.
We beat this team, BCA league, 200 - to like 98 or something like that. 200 is a perfect score in this league. The captain of the other team was pissed. He pulled out a wad and said he had $5k...who wants to take it? The guy sucked, so my whole team about beat each other up to get to him. Anyway, by last call my buddy had already taken $800 or $900. The guy was pissed, his team didn't win a single game, he lost almost a G, and to top it off his girlfriend was practically molesting my younger brother. I had to think he was probably on suicide watch that night
Good times!
In my APA area we dont have that many that gamble but the ones that do will play regularly. Many times its scotch doubles. Generally cheap.
Trouble is that most places that have league dont have extra tables and players usually are not in the same place that often.
I wish a pool room would have an APA or League night like a 911 or In the biz night. Might generate a little more action and if nothing else more interaction.
Trouble is that most places that have league dont have extra tables and players usually are not in the same place that often.
I wish a pool room would have an APA or League night like a 911 or In the biz night. Might generate a little more action and if nothing else more interaction.
Luxury said:
Around here, in APA, a true 4 would be stupid to play a true 6 or 7 in 8 ball for money, even with league rules and the APA handicapped race. The 9 ball races are a better bet for them.
A general rule of thumb I like and agree with is: SL means squat when playing for money.
gpeezy said:
To me this is one of the lowest forms of class. Coming up to me after I just beat you and barking is like pretending that the loss you just incured didn't matter to you because you weren't gambling. Be a graceful loser.
I don't have a problem with gambling. Make matches on your own time.
SGM
supergreenman said:
I agree, calling someone out after they just beat you in league is pretty stupid.
Seems to me that if someone just beat you in league and you want to play them for money afterwards it would be a pretty good indicator that the person was sand bagging. If they couldn't beat you previously, what makes them think they can win when playing for money?
gpeezy said:
I guess timing is everything. Around here if you do that it's like saying you got lucky and does show a lack of class.
I have no problem with people coming up to me another time looking for a match.
In my experience, many league players aren't savvy enough to know about getting spotted or wouldn't be able to figure-out what a fair spot would be. Therefore, for them to gamble -- they would likely think that matching-up even is what they would have to do.
Personally, I would be willing to gamble for smaller amounts with anyone with a league average near mine or lower. To me, someone with a higher league average at the end of the season, would definitely have more skill than someone with a significantly lower average. And when gambling, I think that the person with the higher overall skills is more than likely the person that is going to win a gambling match.
When the pressure of money comes into the equation, the person with the most skills is going to have a huge advantage -- even if the lower-skilled player is being spotted something to get the game closer IMO.
Personally, I would be willing to gamble for smaller amounts with anyone with a league average near mine or lower. To me, someone with a higher league average at the end of the season, would definitely have more skill than someone with a significantly lower average. And when gambling, I think that the person with the higher overall skills is more than likely the person that is going to win a gambling match.
When the pressure of money comes into the equation, the person with the most skills is going to have a huge advantage -- even if the lower-skilled player is being spotted something to get the game closer IMO.
Because I had to go to seven and they went to two. It's not, however, my style to publicly call them out. I would step to the side for an offer. I went undefeated the only year I played, though. It was kind of fun. It's just hard to commit to one night a week. I did try to give up the four and the break to one of our sevens (high as you can go in our area) and didn't like it. Hell, I was just trying to stir something up. For $10 bucks a set, I don't mind trying to outrun the nuts, if there's nothing else going on.MBTaylor said:
Most guys in our APA league wouldn't bet fatback's greasy, though. I don't think it's the money. I think it's the fact of losing in front of people. You know, ego sort of thing. I will offer up the stone nuts just to stir up action, sometimes. Sometimes outrun it, sometimes not. If I am in the poolroom, I am always trying to get into action, whether it's present or future. "Pepper" it up baby.
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I can only bet a couple folks in our league. Most of the guys are just country types w/ working class jobs and no extra money, I think thats a factor.
Playing small sets to 5 or 10 is a good way to stay focused though, so I like it.
Playing small sets to 5 or 10 is a good way to stay focused though, so I like it.