gambling cards vs pool

poolplayer2093

poolplayer2093

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i was thinking about this last night when i saw some poker on tv while i was channel surging. you ever wonder why it is that gambling on pool is frowned upon but playing cards for money is socialy acceptable? they have poker on tv all the time and nobody thinks any less of it. but if you play an alright game of pool and play for money then all the sudden you're the devil trying to hustle everyone. what do you guys think
 
Personally I think it's up to the individual and nobody should look down on those who choose to spice up a game with a wager.

I'm a way better pool player than I am card player, yet I rarely play pool for money, whereas I play cards for money almost every night. Most of the top players I know play money games when they can and it's interesting that the best money players and the best tournament players are not always the same individuals.
 
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I think pool's very much like poker and roulette and even bingo. You have to play for something. When I play, I want to win something. Some people can play for the sheer joy of beating another player. Beating people does nothing for me. Show me the money!
 
What you are watching is a tournament where the winner still wins a set amount for first place. It is basically the same as a pool, golf or bowling tournament. The players paid a entry fee and try to win. Outside of those tournaments I don't think that people feel any different about gambling no matter how it is done. Some support it and others oppose it. The one word that says it all is hustle. Somehow it became associated with pool but it is represented in every game or sport.

There was a pool show on TV last season where 4 players started out with $5000 each and played for that money. They made bets and challenages. The winner was the one that ended up with whole $20,000 and got paid off in cash. The show was lame and I think it hurt pool more than it helped.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
i was thinking about this last night when i saw some poker on tv while i was channel surging. you ever wonder why it is that gambling on pool is frowned upon but playing cards for money is socialy acceptable?
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You socialize with the wrong people.
 
i beleive alot has to do with poker is legal a lot of places where is pool is not in most cases. I am 21 years old and i have done both quite a bit and now that i have gotten the chance to play cards in a casino the atmosphere is alot better than the pool atmosphere. there is no "wolfing" at one another you just take your seat and play. When you go somewhere to play pool there is always some controversy and arguement that is going on. this is sad but its true. i dont if this makes it more sociably accepted or not but i think it has alot to do with it.
 
Dhakala said:
You socialize with the wrong people.
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i think you're misunderstanding me. i'm not talking about people i know personally, i mean people as a whole. i just think it's wrong that gambling on pool at anylever most people see as a hustle and gambling for cards is the cool thing to do
 
poolplayer2093 said:
i think you're misunderstanding me. i'm not talking about people i know personally, i mean people as a whole. i just think it's wrong that gambling on pool at anylever most people see as a hustle and gambling for cards is the cool thing to do
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:confused: If you don't know the people, how do you know what they think of gambling on pool or poker?

I don't know where this myth about pool gambling's disrepute came from. I've never told anyone about my pool profits who didn't think it was cool as Iceland. Even my kid's middle school principal thought it was neat that Tony and I made money off of 20-somethings in Scotch doubles.

OTOH, when I explained to Tony's kindergarten teacher that he could add and subtract up to 21 because we'd been playing blackjack for Good N Plenty candy, she went from delighted to scandalized in an eyeblink.
 
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Poker is for pool players who got too lazy to walk around a 7' table and want to have their beer in front of them at all times.

All my friends play poker. Underground poker in poker houses gambling real money and having 1,000s of dollars on the table at any moment. I'm so sick of hearing about Texas Hold'em. It's all anyone plays anymore. Play some freaking "Go Fish" I say.
 
1pocketfanatic said:
i beleive alot has to do with poker is legal a lot of places where is pool is not in most cases.
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If you look at the States' gambling laws, you will find that wagers upon oneself in a game whose outcome is primarily determined by skill are perfectly legal. That's pool. It's not poker.

When you go somewhere to play pool there is always some controversy and arguement that is going on.
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And that is why many pool rooms sport signs saying, "No gambling allowed." It's a house rule, not a statute.
 
yes i understand that and im not saying it is right or wrong im just saying we see alot of this in our game and i beleive it hurts it. i have gambled and still do occationally on pool but i beleive that if the "wolfing" were left out which it never will be it would really benefit the game
 
I guess by "wolfing" you mean "hustling," which seems to mean misrepresenting one's skill as less than it really is. Hustling is harmless. Either you can beat the guy or you can't.

When you wager that you can beat someone, you're betting on what you know about yourself, not what the other guy claims about himself. Whether I say that I beat Efren Reyes or can't sink a ball with an anchor, why in Hell would you believe me?
 
Dhakala said:
:confused: If you don't know the people, how do you know what they think of gambling on pool or poker?

I don't know where this myth about pool gambling's disrepute came from. I've never told anyone about my pool profits who didn't think it was cool as Iceland. Even my kid's middle school principal thought it was neat that Tony and I made money off of 20-somethings in Scotch doubles.

OTOH, when I explained to Tony's kindergarten teacher that he could add and subtract up to 21 because we'd been playing blackjack for Good N Plenty candy, she went from delighted to scandalized in an eyeblink.
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I've heard of professional players being made to pay a fine for gambling and i've had people turn down cheap games (real cheap) because they were afraid of being hustled. iceland's warm

the teacher might have been upset because it's fine if getting a child started gambling at a young age could lead to an addiction. not that i think there was anything wrong with that playing cards for money that is. i don't mean to sound argumentative i just don't like seeing the game i love hated on while a more sleazy game does so well
 
Dhakala said:
I guess by "wolfing" you mean "hustling," which seems to mean misrepresenting one's skill as less than it really is. Hustling is harmless. Either you can beat the guy or you can't.

When you wager that you can beat someone, you're betting on what you know about yourself, not what the other guy claims about himself. Whether I say that I beat Efren Reyes or can't sink a ball with an anchor, why in Hell would you believe me?
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no im not talking about "hustling" im talking about when you go to a tournament and you have the screaming and hollering that we can do without in our game. i feel that if one gets hustled its their own faught, but i do beleive we can do without the "wolfing". i know derby city thrives on it and i go every year and it is entertaining but in the long run it is going to hurt our game. again i do not have a problem with gambling and i love watching the pros do so, but i also beleive they are called pros because of the way they handle themselves in doing so. i have watched cory play on many occasions and was very impressed with the way he handled himself even when the other player was "wolfing". i beleive that if everyone involved in pool would handle themselves in this mannor pool would greatly benefit.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
i was thinking about this last night when i saw some poker on tv while i was channel surging. you ever wonder why it is that gambling on pool is frowned upon but playing cards for money is socialy acceptable? they have poker on tv all the time and nobody thinks any less of it. but if you play an alright game of pool and play for money then all the sudden you're the devil trying to hustle everyone. what do you guys think
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one reason could be all you ever hear in a poolroom is whining and grumbling about a spot. so in a sense everyone in pool is trying to "hustle" a better game for themselves.

and almost everyone has played a "card game" of some sort, gambling or not, or a game involving cards since they were in kindergarten.
 
1pocketfanatic said:
i beleive that if the "wolfing" were left out which it never will be it would really benefit the game
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LOL!! I think it's "woofing" or trying to make a game throught intimidation.
 
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