Gambling Or No Gambling
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NOPE. NO. NADA. No way Joes.
where's the poll?
crawfish said:
So I guess that NO gambling takes place at a casino? It is NOT a 50/50 chance at the casino, or at the track or at the poolroom. It is rarely a 50/50 on a pool match either, the trick is to know what share YOU have, and bet accordingly.
Gambling is placing a wager on the outcome of an event. Nothing more, nothing less.
I DO AGREE that there is a difference in pool gambling or casino gambling. I do not like to play lotteries or bet on horses because I am an uninvolved party just hoping my number comes up. I like to gamble on pool , or play black jack. I am actively involved in the outcome. I influence the results. The main difference is that EVERYTHING in a casino FAVORS the house. If it didn't, THEY WOULD TAKE IT OUT! They ALWAYS have an edge. Even roulette which is just pure odds, it is still against you. Betting red/black or odd/even is still NOT a 50/50 deal. You got 0 and 00(green) which makes it still favor the house. So by your definition, none of this is gambling?
Don't sugarcoat it, or rationalize it. Gambling is gambling!
I don't mind that gambling is part of pool. Hell, the term POOL comes from gambling! It referes to betting pools.
crawfish said:
Nobody else claimed it to be a 50/50. The only question was "do you think that gambling should be a part of the pool world?"
I personally have gambled on pool in all situations. Believe me, even when you are the favorite it doesn't mean you are going to win! I have gambled where I pretty much knew I would win, times where I wasn't sure but wanted to try, and even times where I knew I would most likely lose. I like to be in action, and learn something about the game and myself. As long as you aren;t putting your house on the line, so what? I have won and lost a million times, one more time either way isn't going to change my life.
Are you telling me you will ONLY gamble when you think you have the nuts? Then I stand corrected you cannot call yourself a gambler!
Dude, anyone that knows me will tell you that I will make a bad game just to stir things up. If I'm in the poolroom, there will be some kind of a game played. And you're right, nothing is worse than having the stone cold nuts and dogging it off.poolpro said:
crawfish said:
OMG you must be crazy! I heard that anyone who would do that is crazy!
Exactly, there are reasons why you may to choose to gamble where the odds may not be in your favor of winning. That is all I was saying. I was merely disputing your definition of gambling. I am here to say that gambling is almost NEVER a 50/50 proposition. The art is to know what the odds are, and act accordingly.
I remember being in the poolroom and sombody talking about a crazy spot that cory duel gave up. I declared that I would take that bet. Of course the guy is like " he would kill you with that spot!". I said " I know he would, and if he wants to make the trip down here and take my $200, I'll buy him dinner afterwards. The point is I WOULD take that bet. I know with 100% certainty I would lose. I would enjoy the experience of doing it. I would probably learn more that a couple hundred dollars worth of knowledge anyway. Add that to the fact tha I would not put up enough money to catch his interest anyway, so it almost surley would never happen.
Some people may think that it is foolish to make a game where you are not the favorite, but I disagree. If you are playing this game to make a living, THAT is foolish! Unless you are a top player, of course. Think of all the people on here who have a true passion for this game. They all have a source of income that is not dependant on their playing skills. I play because I like to play. If I can make some money at it, even better! I won't lose enough ( or win enough) to change my lifestyle, so it is all just for the experience anyway. Nobody is going to get rich playing me, and I doubt I will ever not have a job to support my playing habit.
I still love to play, and I still love to gamble! It is not about the money. If money is your thing, there are many much more sound ways of getting it! A lot less frustrating too.:smile:
In the end, I think we are pretty much saying the same thing just from different perspectives. Didn't mean to nitpick too much, take care.
Without gambling pool is about as exciting as NASCAR, Paint-drying showdowns, and mowing your lawn
excellent poll
Joey,
I find this poll very interesting. I have often wondered if most people playing pool were primarily playing for the love of the game and how many were just using pool as a way to gamble. Your poll will give me a little more feel for this.
I normally hate folks voting "doesn't matter" because it usually means they don't have a clue or don't have an opinion so why feel compelled to click on a button at all? However fine with either is actually a valid opinion here and it is mine. I don't care if others gamble or not. My game has to get better before I start betting again. Might happen might not. Either way I still love to play pool. Which reminds me, the new Ricochet's is open, haven't had a minute to even look in the door yet though.
Hu
Joey,
I find this poll very interesting. I have often wondered if most people playing pool were primarily playing for the love of the game and how many were just using pool as a way to gamble. Your poll will give me a little more feel for this.
I normally hate folks voting "doesn't matter" because it usually means they don't have a clue or don't have an opinion so why feel compelled to click on a button at all? However fine with either is actually a valid opinion here and it is mine. I don't care if others gamble or not. My game has to get better before I start betting again. Might happen might not. Either way I still love to play pool. Which reminds me, the new Ricochet's is open, haven't had a minute to even look in the door yet though.
Hu
When You Have The Definitive AZB Answer, I Will Alert The Media
JoeyA. axed: "Gambling Or No Gambling ?"
Here's my answer: "Eat or DON'T Eat ?"
Doug
JoeyA. axed: "Gambling Or No Gambling ?"
Here's my answer: "Eat or DON'T Eat ?"
Doug
The real underlying question.
Hmmmm..
It seems fairly certain that most of the gamblers will choose #1. I would suspect that most of the non-gamblers would choose #3.
The real question is why would someone choose #2.
It would seem fairly obvious that it would be a non-gambler that would choose #2
But why would that non-gambler feel the need to remove the appeal of pool (for some) from the game?
Not all gambling is done in a seedy enviroment....some gambling is just good clean competition with something on the line.
And to take it a step further...If someone were to answer #2 then why just pool? why not also:
Golf
Poker
Horses
Dogs
Blackjack
Slots
Craps
Stock Market
etc. etc.
Hmmmm..
It seems fairly certain that most of the gamblers will choose #1. I would suspect that most of the non-gamblers would choose #3.
The real question is why would someone choose #2.
It would seem fairly obvious that it would be a non-gambler that would choose #2
But why would that non-gambler feel the need to remove the appeal of pool (for some) from the game?
Not all gambling is done in a seedy enviroment....some gambling is just good clean competition with something on the line.
And to take it a step further...If someone were to answer #2 then why just pool? why not also:
Golf
Poker
Horses
Dogs
Blackjack
Slots
Craps
Stock Market
etc. etc.
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I think everyone enjoys watching "high stakes action"
Coming from the "non gambling" side, I enjoy watching good TAR matches (excuse me....2 man "tournaments") and all the other action games.
What I really detest is all the woofing from the gamblers side and name calling to those who don't wish to partake in a wager. You NEVER see a non gambler do this. Unless there is an environment where a kid can go to play a game for "FUN" w/out getting woofed at, badgered, belittled or slandered then the game will never get "mainstreamed" like so many around here seem to advocate. IMNSHO
No one EVER asked me to gamble in tennis in the 30 years I've played, and I'm not a hack. Why can't pool be this way? Can't a game be played for FUN? If it can't for you....then I can only hope you find the fun soon. Life is too short.
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Coming from the "non gambling" side, I enjoy watching good TAR matches (excuse me....2 man "tournaments") and all the other action games.
What I really detest is all the woofing from the gamblers side and name calling to those who don't wish to partake in a wager. You NEVER see a non gambler do this. Unless there is an environment where a kid can go to play a game for "FUN" w/out getting woofed at, badgered, belittled or slandered then the game will never get "mainstreamed" like so many around here seem to advocate. IMNSHO
No one EVER asked me to gamble in tennis in the 30 years I've played, and I'm not a hack. Why can't pool be this way? Can't a game be played for FUN? If it can't for you....then I can only hope you find the fun soon. Life is too short.
td
I gamble for fun, I like the excitement. It's the same as an ego feed we all enjoy when we compete.
I gamble with all kinds of office pools and pools with friends for NASCAR, Football, Baseball, GOLF (use to play tennis and have a healthly little ladder tournament that paid off in cash)
IM), we all gamble when we wake up and drive to work. It isn't always about the monitary gains. You can bet up to or more than $100,000 to go to college and gain a degree and still never find rewarding work.
$100 a set of 1pkt isn't so devestating unless you need the $100 to feed your family. That is just downright stupid gambling.
If you want to make a living gambling at pool, you are already a loser... I don't know anyone that has been able to do that successfully and retire. If there are any Please provide a list. Thanks in Advance.
To the prudes that think gambling hurts pool.....what do you do to improve the image?
I gamble with all kinds of office pools and pools with friends for NASCAR, Football, Baseball, GOLF (use to play tennis and have a healthly little ladder tournament that paid off in cash)
IM), we all gamble when we wake up and drive to work. It isn't always about the monitary gains. You can bet up to or more than $100,000 to go to college and gain a degree and still never find rewarding work.
$100 a set of 1pkt isn't so devestating unless you need the $100 to feed your family. That is just downright stupid gambling.
If you want to make a living gambling at pool, you are already a loser... I don't know anyone that has been able to do that successfully and retire. If there are any Please provide a list. Thanks in Advance.
To the prudes that think gambling hurts pool.....what do you do to improve the image?
