GC4 DID offer optional score counters

iusedtoberich

iusedtoberich

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Don't believe everything you read on the internet, boys and girls;)

Proof:

Snookers, Providence, RI
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Amazin Billiards, Boston, MA (I saw 2 or 3 of these GC4's with score counters with my own eyes when I visited this room).
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iusedtoberich said:
Don't believe everything you read on the internet, boys and girls;)

Proof:

Snookers, Providence, RI
Screenshot:
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Video link:

Amazin Billiards, Boston, MA (I saw 2 or 3 of these GC4's with score counters with my own eyes when I visited this room).
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Video link:
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Could easily have been retro fitted. B'wick themselves told me back when i asked that no 4's had counters from the factory. Glen would know for sure.
 
garczar said:
Routing out the opening and installing counters would not be a hard job. This is most likely what happened. I couldn't count the # of 4's i've seen/played on and none had counters.
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Never saw a table with counters. Would not install regardless.
 
garczar said:
Could easily have been retro fitted. B'wick themselves told me back when i asked that no 4's had counters from the factory. Glen would know for sure.
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No he wouldn't. Unless he worked at Brunswick and knew ALL the order options. That's like saying an independent Ford mechanic knew every single option offered on a Ford Taurus in its entire run.
 
garczar said:
Could easily have been retro fitted. B'wick themselves told me back when i asked that no 4's had counters from the factory. Glen would know for sure.
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No one in their right mind would retrofit counters. I saw at least 2 of these tables in Boston (in person with my own eyes), and now just saw a third last night in Rhode Island (on stream). That's two states, at least 3 tables.

It must have been a factory option at some point, and very few people excercised the option.

Even fanatic straight pool players never liked these counters, and would just install 50 point beads on a string instead.
 
garczar said:
Routing out the opening and installing counters would not be a hard job. This is most likely what happened. I couldn't count the # of 4's i've seen/played on and none had counters.
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You're nuts. ha ha.

Here is proof in 2 different states.
 
iusedtoberich said:
No he wouldn't. Unless he worked at Brunswick and knew ALL the order options. That's like saying an independent Ford mechanic knew every single option offered on a Ford Taurus in its entire run.
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He knows more about GC's than anybody out there. Why is it so hard to believe this is a modified table? Do you have proof it came from B'wick with counters? Something like an invoice? I kinda doubt it. Possible it was modified after the fact or special ordered this way which is pretty unlikely. Its common knowledge that 4's did not come with counters.
 
iusedtoberich said:
You're nuts. ha ha.

Here is proof in 2 different states.
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Relax dude. You seem hell bent on going all the way on this. I really don't give a flying fk either way. This seems way too important to you. I didn't call you any names by the way. I'm not 'nuts' but i'm thinking there is something wrong with you . Goodbye troll.
 
iusedtoberich said:
No he wouldn't. Unless he worked at Brunswick and knew ALL the order options. That's like saying an independent Ford mechanic knew every single option offered on a Ford Taurus in its entire run.
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iusedtoberich said:
No one in their right mind would retrofit counters. I saw at least 2 of these tables in Boston (in person with my own eyes), and now just saw a third last night in Rhode Island (on stream). That's two states, at least 3 tables.

It must have been a factory option at some point, and very few people excercised the option.

Even fanatic straight pool players never liked these counters, and would just install 50 point beads on a string instead.
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iusedtoberich said:
You're nuts. ha ha.

Here is proof in 2 different states.
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Hmmm...Massachusetts and Rhode Island are very close to one another. Maybe, just maybe, the mechanic that worked on these tables or the outlet that sold them, performed the retrofit. It isn't hard to do by any means and a competent mechanic can make it look OEM. Now, if you said I saw them in Boston and LA, you may have something, but you see three tables in close proximity representing 0.1% of the GCIV population and declare it was a factory option? Anything is possible, but I'd have to err on the side of not likely. At the end of the day, who cares? But hey, if you want to die on this hill, be my guest.
 
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