They use the Trump/Billy Bush method of determination?
Grab 'em by the pool cue? sure, I mean, how else could you possibly tell for sure
They use the Trump/Billy Bush method of determination?
There is a woman who plays out of California, and many national events, for whom it is "common knowledge” that she is transgender. I don’t know so I don’t want to name this person, but she won with her team at the ACS nationals this past spring. She’s an older woman and has been around pool for many years - and won lots of tournaments and league events. All I know is the people I talk to believe she’s trans and that it’s unfair. Maybe some people here know who I’m talking about.
How is this a matter of discussion? Your gender for pool is what is on your license.
If it is good enough for an id, it is good enough for a tournament.
Excellent article for all the "experts" who know how "simple" gender issues are.
LOL. This whole issue makes me laugh! I'm sure the women can handle their own tour! This is all part of that American hysteria regarding the transgender issue. You guys do know that was all a way to distract you from the real issues, right?
Anyway, the odds of this actually happening has got to be extremely small. Would you shave your legs, put on lipstick and a dress, go to a tournament and play it all the while wearing that? I live in a rough part of town, I'd probably be beaten up before I got 50 m away from my apartment. If my friends saw me, I'd never hear the end of it! What if someone took a picture of you and posted it online? I'm not in any way homophobic, but I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a dress and lipstick and I think most straight and maybe even a lot of gay men would feel the same way.
So then there is the subset of people who not only like wearing dresses and lipstick, but do so often, publicly. That's not the largest part of the population, is it? What are the actual odds of such a person, not only playing pool, but also being extremely good at it, to the point of dominating the tour? Those odds have to be miniscule! A lot of pool players have a very inflated sense of their skills, anyway. They think they'd dominate the womens tour, even playing on heels, lol. Well, I watched Jasmine Ouschan cut through a field comprising of male A players like a hot knife through butter... Those players were not wearing unfamiliar shoes or clothes, either...
When you are talking about actual transgender people, not just crossdressers, you know, the people who actually take hormones and have had surgeries, the odds of them being brilliant pool players have to be even smaller than that, simply because of the even smaller subset they belong to. These people are not fraudsters or tricksters! No price money is worth having your privates surgically altered. They are sincere in their desires to live as a women and go through hellish medical procedures to accomplish that task. I say, if the women are fine with them competing, so should you be! I think the most humane thing is to deal with these things on a case to case basis, and with sensitivity. But for the most part, if the State/Country recognizes you as a woman, then that is what you are. Showing papers should be enough in those cases. What if a person turns out to be a woman by your definition were to be subjected to a forced blood test or examination? I don't think they'd be very happy about it at all! Neither would anyone else, for that matter. If paperwork is respected, then that need never happen.
How would you feel if some greasy tournament director said to your face that he didn't think you were a real man? That wouldn't go over really well with me. I don't know about you, but if any implied threat of force or imperative to strip were to follow that, this pool tournament just became a two man mma tournament.
Instead of a gender test we should have a drug test for those p***ys that cant play on the natch
Instead of a gender test we should have a drug test for those p***ys that cant play on the natch
With subsequent talk and recent talk about gender roles in various tourneys I honestly think we need SOME KIND OF STANDARD. Otherwise, me and others might just go put a dress on and cash in.Valid question / subject - what say you?
I think anyone can enter an open tournament, so who cares about what they have in their pants? If an open trans enters a women's tournament, I think that is wrong. I don't care nearly as much about their humiliation as some might think.
why is it wrong? what does one's birth genitals have to do with a game of pool?
when someone lives as a woman, looks like a woman, has estrogen like a woman, even a vagina like a woman, and their whole life completely changes...what makes them in any way ...not a woman??
I can tell this is a sensitive subject for you. I respect your opinion, but also disagree with it.
why is it wrong? what does one's birth genitals have to do with a game of pool?
when someone lives as a woman, looks like a woman, has estrogen like a woman, even a vagina like a woman, and their whole life completely changes...what makes them in any way ...not a woman??
What does "respecting your opinion" even mean? If you disagree clearly you don't respect it?
I was looking for actual answers to the questions I asked.
That would be DNA
You're confusing female and woman
It's almost like they are two different words with two different meanings