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Because, Mikko, after you pull off that shot, you have to give up too much weight in your next action match!!mjantti said:How about thinning the 8-ball and going 6 rails with the cueball ?
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monski said:its a combination shot. 8-9 combination. But the trick is you have to hit the rail first with center ball hit on th qb, medium speed. even if the 8 should drift out a bit due to a slight friction or an erring stroke, it should still be able to get a piece of the 9 to pocket it. one should be able to do this 70% to 90% of the time. Just practice with it for 5 minutes and you'll see what I mean. Just hit the RAIL first.
Yes. I use low english when shooting this shot. The eight will slide down the rail without the side pocket interfering.Even if you get a little drift from the eight, it should stll make it to the nine. I get more success when I hit it firm.
OldHasBeen
Tom Ferry
IMO - You got it right.........
IMO - By double kissing off the eight w/ high right, you have a good chance to make the nine - AND - it does NOT have to be shot that hard. If you miss with pocket speed, you may get a good safe also.
TY & GL
mjantti said:
IMO - By double kissing off the eight w/ high right, you have a good chance to make the nine - AND - it does NOT have to be shot that hard. If you miss with pocket speed, you may get a good safe also.
TY & GL
Jude Rosenstock said:
yes, but, the wei table may be a little off. as always, its hard to get the correct angle on that thing. i turned my laptop sideways trying to get it right.
the bad thing, is that you can actually hit this ball too good, and it will keep coming off the cushion and hitting it again.
i like this shot most of the time, if i was hard pressed though, i think i'd opt for a safe.
VAP
Flex said:
i'll have to try that........how thin?? quarter ball? or thinner?
vapoolplayer said:
Its actually a simple shot.....you shoot the 8 as though you are banking, with top right english and the cueball will travel up the rail into the 9........GAME OVER
I HOPE NO ONE ELSE ANWERED THIS THE SAME AS I DIDNT READ ALL THE REPLIES
Jude Rosenstock said:
OK Sorry when I had posted I hadnt read this SO AGAIN SORRY, but you will have to use right instead of left and it does work.......its an old bar table shot......and another poster was right ....you have to shoot the eight betwwen the corner and the side in order for the cb to travel up the rail.
GUESS I NEED TO CHECK ALL THE REPLIES BEFORE POSTING
Sometimes I dont really get the time too though so usually when I see something I may reply to I juts Go ahead 
I'm always bothered by the fact that only the super-expert solutions get any play in a lot of our "how would you play this" threads.
There is no shot mentioned yet that I'm not familiar with, but rather than dwelling on what I'd do, I'll just say that if a student of mine played the two-way cross corner bank, I'd be proud of them. Favoring the short side and managing the speed well, one would likely obtain either one of the two results shown below, either pocketing the bank or leaving opponent pretty darn tough.
There is no shot mentioned yet that I'm not familiar with, but rather than dwelling on what I'd do, I'll just say that if a student of mine played the two-way cross corner bank, I'd be proud of them. Favoring the short side and managing the speed well, one would likely obtain either one of the two results shown below, either pocketing the bank or leaving opponent pretty darn tough.
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In two words = Table conditions. Yes you can make it with top left, however depending on the angle it can be made with top left or right. In this case if I was crazy enough to shoot this (which I do very well) it would be top left.
In this case though, with the c/b so close to the rail (on a one time deal) I'd pass and play a safe. Not a two way but a safe. I like SJM's idea but I'd play the 8 ball a little higher into the long second rail. Leaving the 8 ball like this.
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I think this shot and leave is fairly simple. If I was to go for it though, LOL I'd hit rail first before the 8 using just left.
Rod
In this case though, with the c/b so close to the rail (on a one time deal) I'd pass and play a safe. Not a two way but a safe. I like SJM's idea but I'd play the 8 ball a little higher into the long second rail. Leaving the 8 ball like this.
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I think this shot and leave is fairly simple. If I was to go for it though, LOL I'd hit rail first before the 8 using just left.
Rod
SJM,
I don't like the safe (the bottom table,) for this reason:
From the angle you have left, it's a pretty easy bank (3 rails) on the eight ball into the nine. And depending on what spin (if any) is placed on the cue ball, you might have two chances at the 9. I would be nervous sitting in the chair if my opponent had that shot.
Also, someone could just play a little reckless and cut the 8 into the bottom left corner and 99 out of 100 times you'll have a clean shot at the 9.
FWIW,
Jon
I don't like the safe (the bottom table,) for this reason:
From the angle you have left, it's a pretty easy bank (3 rails) on the eight ball into the nine. And depending on what spin (if any) is placed on the cue ball, you might have two chances at the 9. I would be nervous sitting in the chair if my opponent had that shot.
Also, someone could just play a little reckless and cut the 8 into the bottom left corner and 99 out of 100 times you'll have a clean shot at the 9.
FWIW,
Jon
Kinda funny
I have a bar box. I set up this shot to see if I could hit the 8 and spin out three rails. Jacked up with a ton of right. My first try I didn't make the 9 but this is what happened. Spinning out 3 rails was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Just getting the right angle out was tuff. Didn't think that the ball would have enough speed. You don't acually have to hit it that hard.
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I was out from there about a 8 inch shot on the 9 ball. lol
I have a bar box. I set up this shot to see if I could hit the 8 and spin out three rails. Jacked up with a ton of right. My first try I didn't make the 9 but this is what happened. Spinning out 3 rails was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Just getting the right angle out was tuff. Didn't think that the ball would have enough speed. You don't acually have to hit it that hard.
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I was out from there about a 8 inch shot on the 9 ball. lol
If I'm showing off I try doubling the rail while banking the 8, however, in a real situation ( tournament, money game ), I would cut the 8 down table for the combination while applying a lot of left hand english. My goal is to make the combination, but if I don't I want to leave the cueball on the end rail where the 9 is and leave the 8 halfway back up the rail between the 9 and side pocket leaving a tough shot for my opponent. With the proper speed the only thing that can go wrong is for the 8 to hit the tit of the side pocket and selling you out.
Actually after re-looking at the shot, I don't think I have the proper angle to use inside english to get the cueball down table, therefore in real life I suck it up and try to make the combination. It's no different than any other rail shot, just a bit longer.