Gina Cues

Get ur story straight if u want to retain ur credibility on this forum. Your first post said that more than one new gina cue u saw was warped, also implying that u had looked thoroughly and could not find a straight cue. U continued to slam this legend by stating u would spend ur money elsewhere. Now u change ur story saying it was one isolated cue, which by the way was probably due to the dealers improper handling of the cue. What I'd like to know is, where u lying in I'd first post, or ur last?

Rg


My story is straight. The cues that interested me over the years I looked at and rolled and you could see daylight and a wobble under the nose of the cues and some shafts had wobbles. These cues where in the 1,700.00 to 3,500.00 dollar range. I chose to purchase another brand of cue, it's simply that. Maybe I seen poorly stored cues. I'm sure if you get a cue directly from Ernie it would be perfect.
 
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Tim said:
Get ur story straight if u want to retain ur credibility on this forum. Your first post said that more than one new gina cue u saw was warped, also implying that u had looked thoroughly and could not find a straight cue. U continued to slam this legend by stating u would spend ur money elsewhere. Now u change ur story saying it was one isolated cue, which by the way was probably due to the dealers improper handling of the cue. What I'd like to know is, where u lying in I'd first post, or ur last?

Rg


My story is straight. The cues that interested me over the years I looked at and rolled and you could see daylight and a wobble under the nose of the cues and some shafts had wobbles. These cues where in the 1,700.00 to 3,500.00 dollar range. I chose to purchase another brand of cue, it's simply that. Maybe I seen poorly stored cues. I'm sure if you get a cue directly from Ernie it would be perfect.
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Your story has changed quite a few times. Your last sentence is probably the first one that rings of any truth.

I believe the reason Ernie is one of the top cue makers in the world is because he is a perfectionist. I don't think he is capable of turning out a bad product. His attention to detail may be unsurpassed.

You might want to be more specific when you decide to knock a legendary cue maker next time.

Of course it is possible that you actually saw a shaft made by Ernie that was warped but it was not being sold by Ernie so who knows what has happened to it after Ernie sold it to someone else.

You might want to try harder to state the facts in the future.

Wayne
 
Fatboy said:
i keep my bushkas and Szams in the microwave, if I had more space in there I would keep the rest of my cues in the microwave too. I have the turntable so I dont get hot spots, you can never be too careful. I tried to store a Samsara in the fish tank once but it made the water look funny and my fish died, so I dont do that anymore.
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I'm gonna put you in the microwave Fatboy! And have you for dinner...with fava beans and rice. :)
 
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fyi...ernie has been making cues for 30+ years and is probably the best cuemaker in the industry today. i don't know who said bill schick trained him, but if anything, ernie might have trained bill. his craftsmanship is superb and attention to detail second to none. as for the person that said he could not find a straight one, where the hell were you looking? bill at cornerstonecustomcues.com has a few of his cues, but they sell so fast that they are hard to keep it stock, but he has pics of the ones he has sold to give you an idea of the cues. also try pccues.com as i think he has two for sale.
i personally have 3 of his cues and they all are straight and play great. when he retires, all of his cues will appreciate in value.

skip coburger
 
My story has not changed and don't try and knock my credibility. I have nothing against Ernie or Ginacues. All I can say is that I saw what I saw on several cues, and I liked one of them very much. The cues I seen all had daylight under the nose of the cue and it wobled. Maybe the dealers stored them improperly, I don't know. That's all I have to say, end of story.
 
The fact is you tried to mar a hard working craftsman's "integrity". Read your first post. Ernie has made only one of the finest cues our game has. You destroyed your own credibility. In fact you sounded like an idiot.
 
jay helfert said:
I'm gonna put you in the microwave Fatboy! And have you for dinner...with fava beans and rice. :)
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dont forget the wine, you better be hungry i gained 5 pounds in germany


wanna play some banks?
 
Tim said:
My story has not changed and don't try and knock my credibility. I have nothing against Ernie or Ginacues. All I can say is that I saw what I saw on several cues, and I liked one of them very much. The cues I seen all had daylight under the nose of the cue and it wobled. Maybe the dealers stored them improperly, I don't know. That's all I have to say, end of story.
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I am not trying to knock your credibility you have already done that quite well yourself.

Suggestion: In the future if you are going to buy a cue from someone who bought it from someone else (as far as I know Ernie does not have anyone selling his cues for him) and the cue is not perfect take it up with the owner of the cue. If the shaft has a wobble get the seller to deduct the cost of a new shaft from the price.

Second suggestion: Do not call a cue maker and ask them if they will warranty a shaft on a cue someone else owns and if you do call them do not be shocked when they tell you you're an idiot.

Third suggestion: If you want to buy a Ginacue that is perfect buy one directly from Ernie.
 
Don't go out and say that a Gina is better than a McDermott because of the "age of the wood" line. McDermott has the biggest pile of wood in the industry, and some of the oldest. They can offer warranties on their cues for the lifetime of the cue because they believe in their product. I've owned customs and productions, and I actually play with a McDermott, having owned Southwests, Joseys, Thomas Waynes, etc. It's the indian, not the arrow. If your shaft warps on your McDermott, they replace it, the same as Ernie at Gina. Quality is quality. Don't think that Jim McDermott doesn't take pride in the work that the people he trained to make cues 20 years ago put out from the McDermott factory. If you want to talk about crap production houses, go pick on J&J, Lucasi and Predator if you want to talk about quality asian production cues. Don't put Viking or Joss or McDermott or Schon or Pechauer in that same category. These guys were making cues around the same time as Ernie started. Gordon Hart, Jim McDermott, Jerry Pechauer, and Evan Clarke have all been in the industry for decades. Don't harp on them because they had the ability to grow into a production facility that doesn't build cues for the "collector". For every Rolls sold, there are probably 1,000 Toyotas sold. Guess that means the Toyota sucks, right?
 
PredatorHater said:
....Don't put Viking or Joss or McDermott or Schon or Pechauer in that same category. These guys were making cues around the same time as Ernie started. Gordon Hart, Jim McDermott, Jerry Pechauer, and Evan Clarke have all been in the industry for decades....
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I agree with most everything you say except this. Actually, Ernie predates them all by anywhere from 5-15 years.
 
cueaddicts said:
I agree with most everything you say except this. Actually, Ernie predates them all by anywhere from 5-15 years.
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If one guy has made cues since 1961, the others 1965, 1969, 1975, etc., I consider this to be around the same time making cues. Pechauer is the new kind on the block, starting in the 80s. With Ernie, he took time off from making cues for a decade or so - the others didn't. This is why I said they've been making cues for around the same time. If you take Ernie's break into consideration, the others (with the exception of Pechauer) all have hime beat in "cuemaking" years.
 
It sounds like Tim had a bad experience but in terms of cuemaker integrity, Ernie's record speaks for itself... He was making ornate cues in the 60's and could be argued to be the father of the exotic cue. He made the first floating rectangle cue and has always been at the cutting edge of cue design. His work remains in nhigh demand and brings big money even on the used market. If I got a hooked cue from Ernie, knowing who he is in this industry, I would put my frustration toward the delivery service that handled the parcel. It can be a long hot journey in the hands of somebody who doesn't really care about the precious contents of the item they are carrying.
 
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