Ginacue 18D Smithsonian Cue

kvinbrwr

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Chris, yes the Ginacue in question made an appearance in Ernie's catalog as an 18D. The last time I saw it priced in a catalog is was just under 20K.

Scott - My apologies, you were correct, the cue we are talking about was indeed designed by Ernie originally for the Smithsonian exhibition.

JV- Yes Ernie made 4, in Gina style they are all color variations on the same theme.

Ernie caught wind of the fact that the Smithsonian exhibition wasn't actually happening and never sent his cue there to get stuffed in some closet. I love this part of the story as it is so typical Ernie, but he had zero interest in donating a pretty large Ginacue to the Smithsonian all for the honor of having it sit in a closet, so he kept the cue. He has the Smithsonian's invitation to exhibit and all the paperwork as if he had contributed, AND THE CUE, which he subsequently sold. Think about how collectible that particular piece is! (and while you are thinking about that, if you want to buy it, let me know as last time I spoke to the guy who owns it, he wanted to sell it and not at a profit).

Ernie sold his 18D's and sometime shortly after, Mottey produced the cues that are being shown in the For Sale thread.

That's about what I think I know.

Thanks

Kevin

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kvinbrwr said:
Chris, yes the Ginacue in question made an appearance in Ernie's catalog as an 18D. The last time I saw it priced in a catalog is was just under 20K.

Scott - My apologies, you were correct, the cue we are talking about was indeed designed by Ernie originally for the Smithsonian exhibition.

JV- Yes Ernie made 4, in Gina style they are all color variations on the same theme.

Ernie caught wind of the fact that the Smithsonian exhibition wasn't actually happening and never sent his cue there to get stuffed in some closet. I love this part of the story as it is so typical Ernie, but he had zero interest in donating a pretty large Ginacue to the Smithsonian all for the honor of having it sit in a closet, so he kept the cue. He has the Smithsonian's invitation to exhibit and all the paperwork as if he had contributed, AND THE CUE, which he subsequently sold. Think about how collectible that particular piece is! (and while you are thinking about that, if you want to buy it, let me know as last time I spoke to the guy who owns it, he wanted to sell it and not at a profit).

Ernie sold his 18D's and sometime shortly after, Mottey produced the cues that are being shown in the For Sale thread.

That's about what I think I know.

Thanks

Kevin
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You forgot to say that Ernie is retiring soon!! :)
 
Kevin
Why are you convoluting things with truth and facts!!!:p
Thank you for your efforts
Paul
 
As often, Kevin is completely right with all he tells us about Ernies cues,
and I have to say thanks, because now the people know that there is NO GINACUE in the Smithsonian :thumbup:

Eric"h" ----- thanks and rep for Kevin for the story behind it :grin:
 
kvinbrwr said:
Chris, yes the Ginacue in question made an appearance in Ernie's catalog as an 18D. The last time I saw it priced in a catalog is was just under 20K.

Scott - My apologies, you were correct, the cue we are talking about was indeed designed by Ernie originally for the Smithsonian exhibition.

JV- Yes Ernie made 4, in Gina style they are all color variations on the same theme.

Ernie caught wind of the fact that the Smithsonian exhibition wasn't actually happening and never sent his cue there to get stuffed in some closet. I love this part of the story as it is so typical Ernie, but he had zero interest in donating a pretty large Ginacue to the Smithsonian all for the honor of having it sit in a closet, so he kept the cue. He has the Smithsonian's invitation to exhibit and all the paperwork as if he had contributed, AND THE CUE, which he subsequently sold. Think about how collectible that particular piece is! (and while you are thinking about that, if you want to buy it, let me know as last time I spoke to the guy who owns it, he wanted to sell it and not at a profit).

Ernie sold his 18D's and sometime shortly after, Mottey produced the cues that are being shown in the For Sale thread.

That's about what I think I know.

Thanks

Kevin

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I would love to see the other colors. Much like "Shakazula" where the colors really set off the cue.

JV
 
Big-Tattoo said:
I would love to own that Cue on the Pic 18D:D
How much for it:confused::wink:
Ernie can't stop making Cues:p:D
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You are right there. He can't stop.

Ernie is the youngest 70 year old I've ever met. He's is completely vibrant and totally into his thing. He loves building cues and the machinery to build them with and it keeps him young, maybe there's a lesson for all of us there.

If you want an 18D, grab your checkbook and call him. The last Gina catalog I saw had an 18D listed.

If you want the Smithsonian 18D, call me (you might want to have your checkbook nearby on that one too).

Thanks

Kevin
 
classiccues said:
I would love to see the other colors. Much like "Shakazula" where the colors really set off the cue.

JV
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Joe

Ernie has a real eye for design and he's a fabulous and artful machinist, a decent combo for a cue maker. It always seems to me that his original designs, in the colors he chose, always look best against pool table blue/green with pool room lighting.

The only feather cue I know the location of is the Smithsonian, and next time I'm at Ernie's, I'll shake some pics loose of that cue.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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mair23 said:
As often, Kevin is completely right with all he tells us about Ernies cues,
and I have to say thanks, because now the people know that there is NO GINACUE in the Smithsonian :thumbup:

Eric"h" ----- thanks and rep for Kevin for the story behind it :grin:
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Eric

I love the Smithsonian story. One one hand you have some other cue makers, who are so wanting to be included in the exhibition that they are donating cues (to the storage room closet) all so they can say they have a cue in the Smithsonian. On the other hand you have Ernie, who when he figures the exhibition won't be displayed, starts to call collectors.

Ernie's father in Columbia was a castanet maker and an accountant, and maybe the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Thanks

Kevin
 
So the Smithy paperwork didn't go with the cue when he sold it. That gives me an idea. Maybe I can dummy up some museum paperwork to tack on to my Domino for when your great grandchild tries to buy it off of my great grandchild. :grin-square:
 
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DogsPlayingPool said:
So the Smithy paperwork didn't go with the cue when he sold it. Maybe I can dummy up some museum paperwork to tack on to my Domino for when your great grandchild buys it off of my great grandchild. :grin-square:
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He's got the original invitation on the wall.

I'm buying it direct from your great grandchild, we have already worked out the deal.

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
He's got the original invitation on the wall.

I'm buying it direct from your great grandchild, we have already worked out the deal.

Kevin
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I thought you were a decent guy to deal with and a straight shooter, but I think you're taking advantage negotiating with my great grandchild. Anyway, I'm pretty sure he cannot legally enter into a binding contract. I'm not an attorney but I'm fairly certain a child that hasn't yet been conceived by parents who haven't been conceived is too young. Of course by then you'll be so old and senile they will probably be taking advantage of you. :grin:
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
I thought you were a decent guy to deal with and a straight shooter, but I think you're taking advantage negotiating with my great grandchild. Anyway, I'm pretty sure he cannot legally enter into a binding contract. I'm not an attorney but I'm fairly certain a child that hasn't yet been conceived by parents who haven't been conceived is too young. Of course by then you'll be so old and senile they will probably be taking advantage of you. :grin:
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Probably senile by then? Have you seen the prices I pay for old Ginas now?
I'm senile now.

Back to the feather cue for a moment. Ernie made 4, one slated for the Smithsonian, and he sold all 4 for big bucks. A little while after Ernie's cues were released Mottey made 4 and sold them. Art is derivative, all cue makers borrow and build on each others' designs and maybe Mottey's cues were more to the copy side of things than merely derived from, you be the judge.

I do know that at least one of the people that originally bought the Mottey version got very angry when he learned he had bought what he considered a rip on an original Ginacue design (he was not aware of the 18D when he purchased his Mottey) and made Mottey take it back.

Thanks

and send that Domino over here for safe-keeping when you have a chance.

Kevin
 
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